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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:59pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17626 of 17631)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

My involvement with the Missile Defense board started with discussion about nuclear weapons on the old NYT Favorite Poetry board.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet_6222_Sep21_2000_PoetryAbtNks.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet6229_Set22_2000_SeeNukes_DowrnInOrder.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet6237_Sep23_2000_SeeWillyNilly.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet6242_MRSnWillyNilly.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet_6250_SeeLunarchick.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/FavPoet_6259_Sep24_2000_KateSaysGoToMD.htm ends with this:

. kate_nyt - 01:27pm Sep 24, 2000 EST (#6264 of 6739) Community Producer, NYTimes.com

Afternoon, all-

This forum is for poetry only. Please move any discussion of nuclear weapons to the Missile Defense forum in the Science area. It could use the help!

Have a good Sunday, Kate

My involvement with the Missile Defense thread began on a Monday, at 07:32am Sep 25, 2000 EST (#266) Ridding the world of nuclear weapons, this year or next year. What would have to happen? rshowalt 9/25/00 7:32am . For the rest of that day, I had a discussion with "becq," who I have often thought might have been President Clinton,

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md266.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md273.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md280.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md290.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md300.htm

ending at #304, which is worth reading in itself ... rshowalt 9/25/00 5:28pm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md304.htm

I was hoping to get off this board then.

Based on things discussed in http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/MD8393.HTM and some other things that were happening to me - it didn't seem certain - but it also didn't seem far-fetched - that becq might be Clinton - or somebody close to him.

Perhaps, at that time - I had a far-fetched view of how close the NYT and the US government actually were.

That view seemed reasonable then, and it doesn't seem far-fetched now, either.

Questions of identity on this board are matters of dispute ( thought there may be ways to get the answers ) but identity of just one of a number of posters might cast a lot of light on the probable identity of the others. Is it far-fetched that gisterme and almarst may have had interesting connections? Maybe not.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/Sequential.htm

This board may be a humble thing - but the political implications of identifying gisterme widely might cast a longer shadow.

almarst2003 - 10:04pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17627 of 17631)

Imperialism Starts at Home - http://www.counterpunch.org/seidman11112003.html

rshow55 - 10:06pm Nov 13, 2003 EST (# 17628 of 17631)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Almarst's postings have often been distinguished. He's had many very perceptive things to say about Iraq - and about international relations in general.

Almarst , lchic and I have been very concerned with problems of press function for a long time. http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2088_2089.htm

We've discussed many of the problems in terms of Weaver's News and the Culture of Lying 5943-44 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.1IDdbB4sX91.159487@.f28e622/7390

Here's http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2088_2089.htm , with its main links working , and other links available by date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm . . .

( If you read the links, you'll see that back then, as now, I had plans - but that executing those plans required working cooperation with power - which was denied ).

Power is always essential - ideas alone can only do so much - for reasons that Berle, and many others, have made clear. See Berle's Laws of Power http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_new_0100s/md667n.htm

rshow55 - 04:46pm May 15, 2003 EST (# 11694 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.1IDdbB4sX91.159487@.f28e622/13304

If a nation state actually took an interest, it might then be possible to count the deceptions and mistakes representatives of the administration have made about missile defense on this thread.

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