New York Times on the Web Forums Science

Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

Read Debates, a new Web-only feature culled from Readers' Opinions, published every Thursday.

cantabb - 06:09pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14915 of 14924)

rshow55 - 04:15pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14905 of 14914)

as I was saying . . . People are very much alike because of processes that naturally converge - that usually work very well, and sometimes misfire.

Profound !

The rest (Angier article etc): NO obvious relevance here.

rshow55 - 04:20pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14906 of 14914)

....And yet so violently angry when we happen to find differences between ourselves -and between our groups.

Just inane.

rshow55 - 04:31pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14907 of 14914)

I'm going to take a little time off to get sweaty - and if things go as they have been - this will be covered up with 10-20 more postings - a lot of posting has been happening lately. ..... In ways that make us human - and can sometimes make us fight.

More on your fixation with 'fighting': your teen acivity !

cantabb - 06:18pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14916 of 14924)

klsanford0 - 04:38pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14908 of 14915)

On the Guardian, Showalter complains:

"It seems to me that the highly professional efforts shown in http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_to10_4.htm and later postings by cantabb and co-workers - taken as an assembly effort - destroy all hope of a reliable and coherent "connecting of the dots" in a number of the senses set out above by fragmenting and frustrating any orderly "collection of the dots" and ordering of them."

That's what he does: misrepresents positions wherever and whenever he can.

I'm waiting to see him post all this about cantabb on the subway walls. !

klsanford0 - 04:43pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14909 of 14915)

The Guardian, Showalter:

There have been about 600 postings on the NYT Missile Defense thread - and there have been disagreements - perhaps including disagreements that have involved significant efforts from NYT staff. I haven't controlled the pace.

A poster named cantabb has posted on the thread often - and his first 82 postings - starting Sept 17 and continuing up to Oct 4 - are collected at http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_to10_4.htm . I've found his efforts, and some coordinated efforts, bracing. There are a number of objections raised - but I believe one of the most important motivations for cantabb and perhaps for employers cantabb may have - is a suggestion I've made that it would be a useful thing, in the public interest - to find out who gisterme is .

Continued obsession with poster identity !

Every poster has been 'asked' by his/her individual employers and others to come here to "fight" with them -- ONLY 2 posters who know what "truth" is, and where does it lie.

Paranoid thinking -- aloud !

Call the ambulance .......

klsanford0 - 06:29pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14917 of 14924)

Hi, cantabb...excellent posts by you as usual....convoluted showalter "logic", you are just here to find out who Gisterme is...

"Call the Ambulance!"

klsanford0 - 06:31pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14918 of 14924)

The reason that there are a lot of posts on this thread is the prodigious output of showalter and his "World Asset"....

jorian319 - 06:35pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14919 of 14924)
"Statements on frequently important subjects are interesting." -rshow55

Look, I "outed" Gisterme just so Robert could give it a rest. Why don't the rest of you, too?

almarst2003 - 07:00pm Oct 13, 2003 EST (# 14920 of 14924)

Prime Minister Tony Blair chaired the meeting where officials decided to confirm the identity of the source of a BBC report that the government had "sexed up" a dossier on Iraq's weapons, a senior civil servant said Monday. http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2003/10/13/225129-ap.html

Sorry. No more dots left to connect...

(4 following messages)

New York Times on the Web Forums Science Missile Defense