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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:50am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14718 of 14730)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Time-Life published a collection of Life magazine covers.

It was a collage - at microscale each "dot" was a much reduced image of a different magazine cover from the 30's to the present.

At a larger scale - at the scale an ordinary person would see - it was a collage of a famous picture of Maryln Monroe.

Cantabb's postings are something like that. And so are some coordinated posts from the "united front" sometimes referred to here.

I said some things in Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/485 448-50 that seem fair about cantabb's posts before Oct 5, and since. http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_to10_4.htm

Cantabb speaks of one person's opinion - and different people do have different opinions on many things. They agree on many others.

We all learned language mostly in a statistical way - not by consulting dictionaries. But we agree on the meaning and usage of many tens of thousands of words with stunning accuracy. The meaning of those words is not personal opinion - but something more.

rshow55 - 08:55am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14719 of 14730)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I'm not answering Cantabb point by point - even when - at the microscale - he makes points that make a certain sense. I'm considering his work at different scales - as reasonable people often do.

At the large scale - it is clear that cantabb is putting out a lot of effort - and it seems a fair guess that he's been asked to do so by an employer. That's just a guess - but some guesses are a lot better than others.

lchic - 08:57am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14720 of 14730)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The heart rates/beats, of Putin's Labrador and Bushes Scottish terrier Barnie - may play a more significant role in world peace than we give them credit!

cantabb - 09:00am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14721 of 14730)

rshow55 - 08:29am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14713 of 14714)

On this board, lchic and I have been advocating efforts to find shared space - - paths for communication - between adversaries, and enemies locked in impasses.

For anything in particular ? Anything to do with MD, by any chance ?

For entirely hard-headed and practical reasons, and other reasons, we need to be able to communicate as human beings.

And, how do you suggest we do it ? Speaking in inane generalities, and in disjointed digressions far off the field ? Or, in faux-Zen conundrums, as the so-called, "world asset" does, so ably and frequently ?

The NYT is involved in such communication - sometimes including discussions between governments.

I did NOT know that [a la Johnny Carson] !

I'm honored that people at the NYT are occasionally willing to discuss things with me.

You mean why 'people at NYT' reportedly 'banned' you a few times and you, how a "crypto"-clever poster, managed to get back on every time ?

We're dealing with primal issues here.

Such as who really are gisterme, almarst, mazza, cantabb, etc ? And with dossiers on each ?

The core things Eisenhower warned against have happened. In many ways it is humanly understandable -- ....

Yeah, you told us about it a few dozen times so far, with link to his farewell address. Right ?

Friedman's piece is beautiful to me today.

What about lchic then ? May be later today, or early tomorrow ?

This thread is a "game" in the game theory sense. Some games are more serious than others.

Looks that way: you sure are using it well ! Is that a fancy 'spinning top', I see in your hand ? Going around in circles !

It seems to me that some essential things are working.

Thank God.

Hear ye, hear ye: "It got understood and exposed"

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