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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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cantabb - 07:27am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14705 of 14718)

rshow55 - 06:44am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14704 of 14704)

Cantabb , you're not being completely ignored, either. I did some summary posts. Guardian Talk International Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/485 448-50 That posting cites http://www.mrshowalter.net/Cantabb_Srch_to10_4.htm

As I said before, I couldn't care less if I'm "ignored" or not. "Irregardless," I post what I think is worth posting here and commet on posts I think worth my comment.

Feel free, join the LONG list of posters who "ignore" me.

This is NOT a 'chat room' where you might feel bad if someone blocked you. [In teen-talk, feel "blown away" by getting diss-ed].

However, on a public forum like this, it does NOT prevent me [or anyone so "ignored"] from commenting or posting whatever I feel like, including to the posts of the 'ignorer'.

In fact, I always find it LOT easier when "ignored" because I don't have to worry about the response to continue the exchange.

As I said before, here and elsewhere, it's a personal preference -- use it, but it's the whining afterward that's hard to understand : putting your head in the sand may be cosy for you, but leaves a lot of you freely available to others. So, take your pick !

Lchic's postings are fine - and are a good deal more often associated directly with Missile Defense than Jorian319's .

Again, YOUR personal opinion.

IF you find the last batch of her 7 posts "associated directly with MD," then YOU are seeing in her posts, NOT evident to others. And, NOT quite a surprise, is it ?

And, thanks for posting links to MY posts at other places. I somehow knew you'd do that. I wouldn't be surprised seeing them posted on the 'sub-way walls' !

Also, thanks again for making and keeping such a dossier on me : that should keep you busy and entertained for a long time. You don't need to thank me.

rshow55 - 07:36am Oct 9, 2003 EST (# 14706 of 14718)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

About 24 hours ago: 14617 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.0jhXbXjYMym.1331998@.f28e622/16328

About two days ago: 14507-9 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.0jhXbXjYMym.1331998@.f28e622/16217

Leaks and the Courts: There's Law, but Little Order By ADAM LIPTAK http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/05/weekinreview/05LIPT.html

. . . . "Reporters ordered to reveal their sources almost never do, on the theory that they and their colleagues would have little chance of persuading other sources to trust them if they did. They generally prefer to be held in contempt of court. Reporters have spent time in jail and publishers have paid substantial fines as a consequence.

What if the issue is an unwillingness of reporters and corporate officers to reveal who they are? And a willingness of reporters to use the implicit presumption of their connections - without taking responsibility for them ?

Suggestion: "Crypto" . . "Watergate" and "Byrd" are interesting searches.

People have to do some switching.

. Ecclesiastes 3: 1-13 - condensed and set to music by the Byrds as Turn, Turn, Turn http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~harel/cgi/page/htmlit?Turn_Turn_Turn.html

A problem I'm having, guys, is that it is hard to summarize while fencing - and especially so while laughing . . .

Some things are only so funny. Though from a certain perspective - a lot of things are. http://www.mrshowalter.net/What,%20Me%20Worry%20About%20Insults.htm

What, Me Worry About Insults.htm

We are sociotechnical beings - and as such we have a lot to hope for - and a lot to fear - from changes in ordering. http://www.mrshowalter.net/Kline_ExtFactors.htm

A lot has happened since I sent this postcard - and it is interesting - and "funny" from a number of perspectives. http://www.mrshowalter.net/LtToSenateStffrWSulzbergerNoteXd.html

People may be muddled - and I may be more muddled than many. It takes people a while - but we can get useful results - and break "codes" and "mysteries".

We're now at a point where - for people in power to keep that from happening - they have to say:

. NO FAIR connecting those dots in interconnected ways - and keeping at it enough for focus !

The nature of that fight - which is an essential fight in our time - is getting clearer. The fight is being clarified, and fought, on this thread.

If all this text was reorganized for a purpose carefully enough - often enough - a lot of it, I believe - would look very good. For instance, the "collected works of Fredmoore." and the collected works of Lchic , too.

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