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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 04:34pm Jul 19, 2003 EST (# 13052 of 13055)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Blair Calls Weapons Expert's Suicide a Tragedy By WARREN HOGE http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/20/international/worldspecial/20KELL.html

In an e-mail message to a reporter for The New York Times shortly before he left on his walk Thursday, Dr. Kelly discussed his appearance before the committee and referred to "many dark actors playing games."

Mr. Blair, struggling to contain what is shaping up as a major crisis for his government, appeared grim and tired at today's news conference. He was questioned about whether the crisis would cause him or any of his top aides to resign and asked if he felt he had "blood on his hands."

He answered: "I hope we can set aside the speculation and the claims and the counterclaims and allow that due process to take its proper course.

In this case "due process" to be expected is a coverup.

'Lie or Die'

The Times spent three months examining the killing of Bobby Gibson and the question of witness protection in New York City. The picture that emerges is disturbing. http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20030706_WITNESS/witness.html

For people associated with the intelligence business, the notion of "protection" can be a joke.

References to CIA and suicide, this thread:

2038-9 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2036.htm

2040-41 http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2040.htm

In practice, people can be ordered to commit suicide as part of a deal for their family. It is also easy to make murder appear to be suicide.

2070-2075: http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2069.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2071.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md2000s/md2349.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md5000s/md5261.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/md9404.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_new_1000s/1240.htm 11846 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.OtwDb1trrG4.38877@.f28e622/13461 contains this:

One of the more savage comments on this thread is this one:

Missile Defense #5703 - mazza9 Nov 13, 2002 10:58 am http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.OtwDb1trrG4.38877@.f28e622/7114

"Kalter:

"Be kind to Robert. When he stuffs the barrel into his mouth and pulls the trigger, we can hope that his belief system is such that he knows that he has "done a good job" and is just "SO UNAPPRECIATED!" "

13030 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.OtwDb1trrG4.38877@.f28e622/14706 refers to 12393 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.OtwDb1trrG4.38877@.f28e622/14046 , which cites a fine editorial and also includes this: - - - -

I've written plenty on this thread that cannot be traced (at least, without the active cooperation of the CIA - and they may have destroyed their records.) But can anyone find anything I've written on this thread, regarding facts, that can be shown to be wrong - where intentional deception can be shown?

Or any mistakes of fact - except a very few which I quickly acknowledged and corrected?

I've made judgements, too - and here's one. The Bush administration needs to be distrusted and called to account.

. The connection between their practices, and Nazi practices - is too close for comfort. They should fix it - and other Americans should insist that they fix it.

The security of the United States, and the things about the United States that are worth defending - depend on facing these responsibilities.

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