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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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lunarchick - 10:00am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5261 of 5281)
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'A texas oil man and former KGB spy' .. stood on the castle terrace ... as the world media - flashed.

lunarchick - 10:06am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5262 of 5281)
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    that members of Congress have never seen the actual missile targeting plans developed by the military in response to presidential directives.
How dare Congressmen cash their pay cheques when they obviously don't do their job!?!

rshowalter - 10:07am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5263 of 5281) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Comments on shifts in paradigms and positions, by gisterme .

MD5206 gisterme 6/15/01 2:31pm . . . MD5221 gisterme 6/15/01 5:12pm

Change can be greatly for the better -- or for the worse.

A time for being careful, about facts and relations, too. "Sincerity" and "strong subjective feelings" ought not to cut it here -- because so much matters.

rshowalter - 10:18am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5264 of 5281) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD5145 rshowalter 6/14/01 7:51pm .... cites several articles citing reasons for concern, and one I believe merits special attention, because it relates to the manufacture of "consent" and the projection of "artificial sincerity" according to patterns perfected, in detail, by the Nazis.

In Virginia, Young Conservatives Learn How to Develop and Use Their Political Voices by BLAINE HARDEN http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/11/politics/11CONS.html linked to md4771

I feel that Harden's article ought to be read, carefully indeed, by people who have questions about the responsibility, and dominance, of right wing patterns in the Republican party, and in America as a whole.

Any competent staff can find a great deal of information about the connections of the CIA, the Bush family, and the right wing of the Republican party -- and patterns of misinformation, and conflict of interest, that concern many. I believe that it is important that the staffs of nations concerned with their own survival, and the interests of their people, consider these things, among many other things -- in judging when to defer to the judgement and good will of American leaders of the "military-industrial complex" on matters that cannot be checked.

With care, we are at a time when much good may come. But care ought to be morally forcing here.

civiltongue - 10:40am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5265 of 5281)

I am opposed to NMD in its present form for the following reasons:

  • too easily overwhelmed -- the "rogue nation" need only build a few more missiles.

  • too easily circumvented -- many other ways for a "rogue nation" to attack us.

  • too soon obsolete -- weapons technology is moving very fast and always favors the attacker.

  • too much money.

    I prefer the following alternative. Missile launches are high-energy events and are relatively easy to detect. Let's enhance our ability to detect launches, coupled with massive retaliatory capability, so that any "rogue nation" would be committing national suicide if they attacked an American city.

    rshowalter - 10:47am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5266 of 5281) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    Wouldn't it be better to prohibit the missiles - in ways that worked? If Putin and Bush were agreed -- and they do have much common ground related to the issue -- that wouldn't be unthinkable.

    It could be done a great deal sooner than any missile defense, I believe. (Perhaps not, but it would be worth serious investigation -- something that doesn't seem to be proceeding.)

    If the truth about the past were clear, much could be cleaned up about the present, and the future. Perhaps, then, and missile defense would cease to make any sense at all, to anyone in a position of authority anywhere.

    civiltongue - 10:58am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5267 of 5281)

    Wouldn't it be better to prohibit the missiles - in ways that worked?

    What would those ways be?

    A strongly-worded U.N. resolution? Angry jawboning by President Bush? Ordering the DEA to intercept missiles as well as drugs? Deploying the L.A.P.D. SWAT team?

    If the so-called "nations of concern" were amenable to following international law, permitting on-site inspections, etc., then they wouldn't be "nations of concern."

    midmoon - 11:02am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5268 of 5281)

    Dear Lunar Chick,

    Note this verse ,too.

  • ****

    The host tells the guest of a nice dream the host dreamed

    An Aussy guest tells the host of a nightmare the guest dreamed

    The host and the guest now telling each one's dream to each other are also dreamers in a day time nap dream

  • ****

    Your pen name reminds me of a chicken fled from the notorious Wells' animal farm.

    You must have associated with the monkeies and the dogs at the farm ,isn't this right?

    How do you think about changing your pen name to a more arrogant ones such as Lunar South Pacific ,Lunatic Ocean Star,etc?

    I hope you will find a very nice one.

    Good luck in it!

    lunarchick - 11:05am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5269 of 5281)
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