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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 05:28pm May 17, 2003 EST (# 11743 of 11748)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The logic of sZorrow

"" Being Iraq under a torture regime doesn’t give us a reason to bring “Zoro” to liberate it.. Why? Because this is not mentioned in our Islamic history – long before Zoro’ was born.

http://www.yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=635&p=opinion&a=2

rshow55 - 06:18pm May 17, 2003 EST (# 11744 of 11748)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.HvctaFN0aZT.299325@.f28e622/13349

As a practical matter, I'm under restrictions that are substantially as limiting as house arrest. If a reporter with some time (and a name I could verify) wanted to check that statement - I could support it in great detail - and some of that detail would be dramatic.

If the checking effort became too much trouble - a letter from a reporter to that effect might interest a foundation enough to permit someone reasonably impartial to hire a detective to carry the checking further. Especially if that letter was backed up by an editor.

I've never asked for unfettered freedom.

My relations with the University of Wisconsin illustrate some things about how serious my restrictions are. Not only for me. And how embedded they are in the interacting systems in which we live. This is from http://www.mrshowalter.net/Burke_Jun16.htm

If I was free of security limitations - or had clear limitations, and that was in writing, or otherwise clearly checkable then I could interact with people in workable ways - for collaborations and business relationships that fit real needs, in real circumstances.

Clear limitations would count for a great deal.

- - -

It seems to me that I could accomplish most of the things I was asked to do by the government years ago - and I was asked to do a great deal - and do those things in a way that would be in both the national interest and wider interests - if I was simply permitted to establish some key facts - and permitted to function under bureaucratically clear restrictions.

That might make millions or billions of lives better. Safer. In ways entirely consistent with the ideals most Americans share.

11737 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.HvctaFN0aZT.299325@.f28e622/13347 begins

I would like to be able to set up something very much like AEA again - and do it honestly -

If I could establish some facts - it seems likely that I could do that. On a free market basis.

But people are afraid to do the things it takes to establish facts - in the US and elsewhere.

We've lost a lot since George Kennan was working. - see lchic's quote from Kennan # 5169 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.HvctaFN0aZT.299325@.f28e622/6500 and read gisterme's response thereafter.

Both Eisenhowers would have been appalled. But my guess is that neither would have given up hope. Both Dwight and Milton Eisenhower cared a lot about rules - and exception handling.

If you want to know about Dwight D. Eisenhower's ideals for a University - look at Milton Eisenhower's Johns Hopkins - including APL, and SAIS. Problems and all.

lchic - 06:21pm May 17, 2003 EST (# 11745 of 11748)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

"Liberty is the right of everyman to be honest and to speak without hypocrisy."

Jose Marti

fredmoore - 09:52pm May 17, 2003 EST (# 11746 of 11748)

.Send

......Down

...........More

.................Kids!

DOH! $#@#$%

lchic - 04:18am May 18, 2003 EST (# 11747 of 11748)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

How to match C8_Thoughts with C21_Thinking

How to match the old defunct redundant world of goat, sheep and camel dung .... with an advanced world's sophisticated technology

How to properlay educate a 'scholar' and set standards

How to re-interpret the Koran in light of modern needs, or, close it

How to ..... ?

How to make the world a safer place for thinking man

How to .... ?

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The when redundant thinkers use the term 'western' or 'American' ... what they actually mean is an advanced economy / complex system ... as opposed to an outmoded one - their own ... 12 Centuries out of date!

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