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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 11:47am Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10790 of 10793)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Quote ‘They don't know who is friend, who is foe. Water and food is scarce, there is no electricity’

Minds get very confused both inside a country torn by bad leadership and war

And

Outside it's borders too

lchic - 11:51am Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10791 of 10793)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Anti-war rallies ....... the Human Shields ..... coming out of Iraq

HAVE

admitted they were naive

HAVE

seen how the Iraq Gvt tried to manipulate them

HAVE

heard the 'voice' of real Iraqi people

HAVE

heard that the mood of the repressed in Iraq is to get rid of the Tyrant - at whatever the price!

These guys should now go and speak at their local anti-war rally!

-------

The anti-war mind might move over towards demanding

INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS

of operation within countries

Giving decent people a decent carry-on and infrastructure!

rshow55 - 01:28pm Mar 30, 2003 EST (# 10792 of 10793) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

655 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.Ypn5abCh640.2347859@.f28e622/812

An old system of international law, which worked well in many ways, very poorly in others, is in disarray.

A "web of facts" need to be substituted for a "web of lies."

Facts, established solidly enough, can be powerful. Enron was dominant - deferred to -- respected -- on the basis of a pattern of ornate but blatant deceptions. But the lies were unstable - - and once some key facts solidified - with clarity - and with many of the facts presented together in space and time, so people could see -- the fraud collapsed. An admirable collection of facts and circumstances, contributing to that instability is here: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/14/business/_ENRON-PRIMER.html

Some key aspects of the US military-industrial-complex deserve analogous scrutiny. For it to happen, for it to be news, world leaders are going to have to ask for checking. Editorials like this one today:

. The Weapons We Need Now http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/30/opinion/30SUN1.html

can "keep plugging" day after day - but by the standards that tought persuasion really takes - the standards of persuasion needed in jury trials - they aren't enough agains well funded and determined resistance. Attack on the Ad-Man http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.Ypn5abCh640.2347859@.f28e622/7061

Though reptition sometimes helps:

Mystro a drum roll for these big-ticket items in procurement for the military industrial complex:

http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.Ypn5abCh640.2347859@.f28e622/10328

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md7000s/md7449.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8069.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/md9281.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md9000s/md9988.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_new_1000s/1317.htm

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