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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:47am Mar 1, 2003 EST (# 9390 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Do people who, by what they say, seem connected to power notice what is written here? Gisterme seems a likely example. Almarst , as well.

3091 rshow55 7/16/02 8:19am includes this. <a href="/webin/WebX?14@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1126987@.f28e622/3856">rshow55 7/16/02 7:19am</a>

" There's a problem with long and complex. And another problem with short. . . . . The long and the short of it, I think, is that you need both long and short."

From the long, quite often, the short condenses.

We need both long and short statements and this thread, which has been going on - is an effort to move some key things - matters of life and death - into focus. http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1126987@.f28e622/4168

I think this forum has probably already made a contribution to the culture - involving the concept of "connecting the dots" - 9238 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1126987@.f28e622/10764 a notion that Secretary Rumsfeld and many other ranking people now use frequently.

To see a summary of this thread, click "rshow55" at the top left of my postings.

In addition to this thread, and in coordination with it, lchic and I post on Guardian Talk threads. Here are threads I use and appreciate very much - that often refer to this thread -and sometimes summarize it more compactly. The links below connect to postings I've made today, or recently.

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163 International/ Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7726f Science/ Paradigm Shift .... whose getting there?

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085 Issues/ Mankind's Inhumanity to Man and Woman - As natural as human goodness?

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd Issues/ God is the Projection of Mans Unrealised Potential - Discuss

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a59d Environment/ how long do you give this planet of ours?

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee9b7ef Politics talk/Europe and the world/ Fortress America?

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7f95f Politics talk/Manifesto/ "8th March : Wimmin" Manifesto

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee81376 Science/ The Worlds Nicest Equation ?

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee81cf9 Science/ Language is instinctual

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e The arts/ There's Always Poetry

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b23c What's the best advice you've ever been given?

Is the work worth it? I've felt so. If the points we're dealing with here - especially about issues of fact - and procedures for getting facts clear - were checked to closure - we'd live in a far, far safer world.

I opened 2003 on this board with 7177 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1126987@.f28e622/8700

"I think this is a year where some lessons are going to have to be learned about stability and function of international systems, in terms of basic requirements of order , symmetry , and harmony - at the levels that make sense - and learned clearly and explicitly enough to produce systems that have these properties by design, not by chance."

If people with real influence wanted to check the claims about facts and relations on this board, according to procdures set out, for instance, in http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/296 , I believe that ought to be possible.

lchic - 01:05pm Mar 1, 2003 EST (# 9391 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Turkey says 'yes' by a small majority .... but ... challenged

A constitutional wrangle in Turkish Parliament!

Victory was defeat --- 3 votes short of majority needed

The Parliament will vote again on March 4

__________

Pres of UAE says 'Step Down Saddam!'

lchic - 01:08pm Mar 1, 2003 EST (# 9392 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Parliament

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