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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 12:07pm Feb 26, 2003 EST (# 9302 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

A hyper-expensive path to take - for which a few arguments can be made - if it worked. Interdiction, hard as it is - or enforcement of internatioan law - hard too - are both more workable than our MD programs - given the faintest competence from the missile builders.

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Psychwarfare, Casablanca - - - and terror # 380 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?8@@.ee7a163/413

Yesterday evening, the NYT forums shut down for "scheduled maintenance" - shortly afterward called "urgent maintenance" - and when I rechecked this morning, eight postings had been removed.

9299 <a href="/webin/WebX?14@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/10833">rshow55 2/26/03 9:05am</a>

On reposting a piece of what had been deleted on the NYT MD forum- I found that http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md310 was blocked so that clicking the reference to it didn't work through the NYT thread - but did, a while ago, work here. (perhaps this link was blocked because of 312 and 315 by "becq" - who I believe was Bill Clinton )

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md00100s/md328 was also blocked in the same way - used to work here - but does no longer.

These references - from Sept 27 and 28, 2000, can still be accessed from http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm as of now.

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The deletions say a good deal about the probability that gisterme is, indeed, PTUS.

almarst2003 - 01:17pm Feb 26, 2003 EST (# 9303 of 17697)

STARTLING ACCUSATION FROM A GULF WAR VET GROUP - http://www.stratiawire.com/article.asp?id=936

FEBRUARY 25. The American Gulf War Veterans Association, led by Joyce Riley, has issued a press release that accuses US forces of setting huge oil fires in Kuwait at the end of Gulf War One.

rshow55 - 01:29pm Feb 26, 2003 EST (# 9304 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Almarst , no one has to believe - without checking. And checking in expensive. But sometimes, not checking is even more expensive.

8368 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9894 links to 680 postings by gisterme prior to restarting of this thread on March of this year. All these posts are available by date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm

Each of these links connects to 20 links on the MD thread by gisterme:

8370 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9896

8371 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9897

8372 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9900

8373 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9899

8374 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9900

8375 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9901

8376 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9902

8378 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9904

8379 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@13.DDr1b0YuYGb.1129179@.f28e622/9905

All these posts are available, either by links here, or by date at http://www.mrshowalter.net/calendar1.htm

The postings that were removed from this thread yesterday are reposted on Psychwar #381 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?8@@.ee7a163/414

I think that the references to Milgram's study, from Lecture Notes: Introductory Psychology by Prof. Evan Pritchard http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~epritch1/social98a.html includes this: are particularly interesting. Those notes also have a succint writeup of Jonestown. Trust can be misplaced.

Psychwar, 375-77 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?8@@.ee7a163/407

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