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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 04:15pm Feb 16, 2003 EST (# 9009 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Also on March 1, 2001 there were these postings on the Guardian Talk thread There's Always Poetry

1202 .. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1554 by rshowalter -

1203 . . http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1555 by bNice2NoU -

1204 . . . http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1556 by rshowalter -

1205 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1557 by bNice2NoU -

1206 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1558 by rshowalter -

1207 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1559 by rshowalter -

1208 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1561 by bNice2NoU -

1209 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1562 by rshowalter -

1210 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1563 by rshowalter -

1211 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1564 by bNice2NoU -

1212 Our nuclear balances are less safe than people think ... http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1565 by rshowalter -

1213 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1566 by rshowalter -

1214 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1567 by rshowalter -

rshow55 - 04:16pm Feb 16, 2003 EST (# 9010 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

341 - 356 in Mankind's Inhumanity to Man and Woman - as Natural as Human Goodness? http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?8@@.ee7b085/383 sets out a series of postings from March 17-24, 2001, originally on this thread - that were also described - with links that work now - on July 24th in 7388-7390 below.

rshowalter - 08:17pm Jul 24, 2001 EST #7388-7390

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md7000s/md7387.htm http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md7000s/md7390.htm

Dawn and I were proud to interact with almarst , and I think we both were fascinated with his passionate, angry arguments that, dealing with the United States, Russia needed nuclear weapons. It was like talking to a very smart, responsible person, living in a different conceptual world from the one I came from.

Part of my job, for years, strongly encouraged by Casey, was to work on negotiation dynamics, and especially to try to figure out "why we couldn't talk to the Russians." Casey was clear that, even when we tried to avoid fights with the Russians, we got into them. The Russians had corresponding problems with us. I'd spent a good deal of time, working with Steve Kline, thinking about problems of complex cooperation -- and the idea of complexity itself -- partly because of a sense of those problems, and partly because of related difficulties with "paradigm conflict" that Steve and I had become interested in, that Dawn Riley and I have clarified this last year.

We were especially interested in dialog with almarst after we read "Muddle in Moscow" http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=533129 ..... cited in MD1126 rshowalter 3/17/01 4:57pm ... http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/md1125.htm

When we read that story, we imagined that we really were dealing with a powerful man who had taken time, with a staff, to do some listening. Or perhaps we were in a "dry run" that that powerful person might be interested in. And for the next week, Dawn and I worked hard to tell almarst things we thought President Putin might be able to use, and got a lot of perceptive dialog back from almarst while we were doing it.

MD1127 rshowalter 3/17/01 5:06pm ... MD1128 rshowalter 3/17/01 5:31pm MD1129 rshowalter 3/17/01 5:38pm ... MD1130 rshowalter 3/17/01 5:38pm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/md1125.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/md1129_1130.htm

MD1131 rshowalter 3/17/01 6:02pm ... MD1132 rshowalter 3/17/01 6:10pm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/md1131_1137.htm

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