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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:39pm Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4429 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I have also been doing my duty.

MD4400 rshow55 9/19/02 8:56am

MD4403 rshow55 9/19/02 9:33am

A special kind of communication is sometimes needed - when there is doubt about what is right. That kind of communication is needed for "fighting out" questions of logic and fact. If the ideas aren't fought out - more bloody fights are sometimes unavoidable. To be merciful and responsible to human beings - sometimes you have to take a harsh, stark view of ideas that have consequences.

When consequences matter - getting logic and facts straight is vitally important - and though it has costs - if the basic requirements of communication set out in http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML are satisfied - - it can be done.

We need to learn to do it better. This thread has partly been about that.

4365 rshow55 9/18/02 7:55am ... 4366 rshow55 9/18/02 10:26am
4367 rshow55 9/18/02 10:37am ... 4369 rshow55 9/18/02 11:11am ... 4370 rshow55 9/18/02 11:11am

Enough is going badly enough - things are out of balance enough -- there's enough crazy behavior - that people ought to seriously consider getting some key facts established - so that we'd know enough - about the past, and about ourselves - so that stable, peaceful relations might have a decent chance.

Is it possible that the Bush administration is setting up a war in order to win an election where, without the war , they'd have to talk about things like Enron ? People should check.

Laws of Power: MD4339 rshow55 9/16/02 9:16am

MD4350 rshow55 9/16/02 5:03pm

Links to CIA and my security problems, this thread:
3774-3779 rshow55 8/17/02 5:58pm

3843 rshow55 8/20/02 8:30pm . . . Pity Bill Casey died under such awkward circumstances - so very few days before he was to testify about Iran-Contra. There are things that need to be checked - - and things the whole world has in interest in getting checked.

Friedman is right that the respectable values of the United States are winning. We shouldn't besmirch those values. We're asking for better behavior from the Islamic culture - and owe them, and ourselves, honest behavior ourselves.

lchic - 08:47pm Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4430 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Iraq - wheels within wheels

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,795592,00.html

"" "The officer corps in the Republican Guard are highly trained and motivated, but they hate Saddam Hussein. They also hate the United States. They have a political mind of their own ...

... the super-elite Special Republican Guard (SRG), which is now the only major force trusted enough to operate in central Baghdad. Members of the SRG come mainly from areas of Iraq that are noted for their loyalty to President Saddam, including Tikrit. Several of the top officers are drawn from his own family.

The SRG's main function is to protect the Iraqi leader, his relatives and his palaces. ...

lchic - 09:03pm Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4431 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

This deviates from the main function of regular armies whose task is to protect 'the people' !

lchic - 09:07pm Sep 19, 2002 EST (# 4432 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

On the 'Almarst' moniker ... I immediatedly noticed the IT mind-concept in it's derivation ... there has been more than one 'voice' under the label.

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