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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 10:24am Sep 2, 2002 EST (# 4127 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If Cooper wants to argue "don't have to believe you - I can dismiss you." - - - that works, to a degree. But not always.

Somebody could sue somebody. Some politician or journalist might ask a question that couldn't be avoided. And rules could change.

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"Americans need to be WORTHY of the GOOD THINGS people associate with this flag - - not just wave it. . . http://www.awolbush.com/usaflag1.gif . Our allies, and people all over the world, should be able to expect that. And able to check that. . . . On missile defense issues, and other issues that matter enough.

Sometimes, that means things have to be checked. Even if somebody has to go to some effort - to work through chains of evidence. Trials do that pretty well, fairly often. And this thread works well as pretrial discovery.

lchic - 10:24am Sep 2, 2002 EST (# 4128 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

PIAGET

http://www.papert.com/articles/Papertonpiaget.html

"" ...
Piaget's theory - four stages;
Sensorimotor (birth to 2 years),
Preoperational (2 to 7 years,
Concrete Operational(7 to 11 or 12 years) and
Formal Operations (11 or 12 to about 15 years)
http://www.georgewiles.com/massey/html/cogdev.htm

communication models -
http://www.brocku.ca/commstudies/courses/2F50/jakobson.html
http://www.worldtrans.org/TP/TP1/TP1-17.HTML
http://www.nonviolentcommunication.com/BookPages/nvcmodel.html

http://search.ninemsn.com.au/results.asp?cfg=SMCINITIAL&RS=CHECKED&v=1&srch=5&FORM=AS5&q=Piaget+%2D+four

wrcooper - 10:28am Sep 2, 2002 EST (# 4129 of 17697)

Showalter:

I am not saying I disbelieve you. I am simply asking you to substantiate your claim, which struck me as numerically fuzzy.

Stop stalling. Nobody's going to be fooled by your deliberate obfuscation and temporizing.

I want to believe you. Therefore, identify your sources so that I can independently verify them. How did you com e up with the numbers?

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