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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 07:38am Jul 30, 2002 EST (# 3342 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I've had to postpone a trip East, to my great disappointment, and the disappointment of my parents, because of pressures from Cooper-Mazza-Dirac-Johnson - and some opportunites, as well.

There is a key problem, and this board has adressed it again and again (almost always in ways where details of my identity don't matter).

Question:

. Do the authorities, or people with status, have an unlimited right to lie, distort, and distract in the United States of America?

In a lot of cases, that seems to be the status quo. Getting that fixed is, in part a technical matter, and there has been a lot of effort on this thread to address that. Over time, almarst has been very helpful.

There are a lot of relevant things, some of the most interesting involving almarst , to be found by searching "Krugman" on this thread.

We'd have a much better world if the facts Krugman sets out - in a place in the NYT where some checking is likely to have occurred -- were checked to closure.

There are times when there ought to be compelling obligations to get facts straight.

Where politicians ought to expect this of other politicians, and voters should expect this of the people they judge.

That would be a great but needed change from that "culture of lying" that evolved in the 20th century - especially after WWII - which has degraded so much that we value in America.

lchic - 07:50am Jul 30, 2002 EST (# 3343 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

"" Bush already has approved covert action against Saddam and directed the CIA to increase support to Iraqi opposition groups. Six Iraqi opposition leaders are visiting Washington for talks next month.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20262-2002Jul30.html

lchic - 07:58am Jul 30, 2002 EST (# 3344 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Why do they hate us asks Bush ?

The Bush White House has decided to transform what was a temporary effort to rebut Taliban disinformation about the Afghan war into a permanent, fully staffed "Office of Global Communications" to coordinate the administration's foreign policy message and supervise America's image abroad, according to senior officials.

The office, due to be up and running by fall, will allow the White House to exert more control over what has become one of the hottest areas of government and private-sector initiatives since Sept. 11. Known as "public diplomacy," it attempts to address the question President Bush posed in his speech to Congress the week after the terrorist attacks: "Why do they hate us?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18822-2002Jul29.html

lchic - 08:17am Jul 30, 2002 EST (# 3345 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1408-2002Jun17.html

Other performers have feared voicing their views in public lest they be accused of being unpatriotic. http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,765579,00.html

rshow55 - 08:33am Jul 30, 2002 EST (# 3346 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

MD3034-3044 rshow55 7/13/02 12:36pm ...

We need, in Lincoln's memorable phrase, a rebirth of freedom.

We are much too afraid.

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