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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 12:07pm Jul 13, 2002 EST (# 3030 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Sometimes, there are ideas that need to be widely understood - - some simple enough to teach as rhymes in nursery schools.

4 year olds could learn this one - - first by rote -- and it would be good if they did. ... lchic 7/11/02 4:28pm

"Adults have secrets
"lies and fictions

"Live in their world
"of contradictions

Everybody ought to know that . . . we'd all be safer if they did. But we'd also be safer if another lesson were added. Let me take a shot:

- - - - - - -

Adults have secrets
lies and fictions

Live in their world
of contradictions

But if things go bad
and knock about

Folks get together
And work it out.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Of course people need fictions, for all kinds of reasons. Everybody knows that. At some levels anyway. Everybody should know it better, more clearly, deeper.

People need fictions. So do groups. But what do they cost? Who do they hurt? When those answers make a little examination make sense, it should happen.

We need to check some things about the Bush administration, and legacies of the Cold War that shouldn't go on - - and we should do it now.

lchic - 12:07pm Jul 13, 2002 EST (# 3031 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Plain Sailing

    In a fresh breeze, sails billow and strain against masts and rigging. Ropes and spars gently creak and sunlight sparkles on the sea. (Tall Ships)
The Economist (above) on companies told shareholders to be more vigilant.

On presidents too it might say the same.

The problem for the little-guy is that he assumes that people in postions of responsibility
have a code of ethics from which they work.

How can 'the little-guy' exhert shareholder influence over either a company or a nation?

rshow55 - 12:17pm Jul 13, 2002 EST (# 3032 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

By being a real, full person - - and insisting that s/he be treated that way.

lchic - 12:21pm Jul 13, 2002 EST (# 3033 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

The USA has an interesting process for electing presidents ... it requires the getting-of-a-lot-of-cash to fund a campaigne.

Were the emphasis on the 'quality' of the leader and less on the means of funding an election - then more good candidates for high office might filter through.

Does 'the office of president' carry too much sway in the USA? Seems like a grab for power as and against those in the People's House. Presidents come through as swashbuckling campaigners ... might there be more of a role for a person with experience in the People's House to carry out People's business?

Does the office of president have far too much power (and funding)? Shouldn't many of the duties be 'moved back' and put under the control and regulation of 'the people'?

Traditionally those who run and don't make president are not selected to re-run. If this applies to Al Gore - then who looks like a candidate for president in upcoming and future elections?

lchic - 12:25pm Jul 13, 2002 EST (# 3034 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

A response such as that rshow55 7/13/02 1:17pm implies that the USA voter is half-deflated ... not full blown ... has only half-understanding ... might not make it to the poll .... has given-up on government ... doesn't think his/her vote counts for anything much.

rshow55 - 12:35pm Jul 13, 2002 EST (# 3035 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

We need, in Lincoln's memorable phrase, a rebirth of freedom.

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