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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 12:46pm Jun 17, 2002 EST (# 2593 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Showalter i've tracked down your poems .. some may have slightly new addresses:

Showalter's Poems

chain breakers http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/618

In Clear rshowalter "Science News Poetry" 2/14/01 7:18am

Learning to Stand http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1345

Secular Redemption http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/1345

rshow55 - 12:57pm Jun 17, 2002 EST (# 2594 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Learning to Stand http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee79f4e/3305 . . . . I owe a LOT to lchic !

I was paralyzed before she took me in hand, and helped me work out the things in Paradigm Shift - Whose Getting there? http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7726f . . things that had stumped Steve Kline and I completely.

lchic - 01:19pm Jun 17, 2002 EST (# 2595 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

Hard to figure out why the USA masocistically denied/denies itself your valuable intellectual contribution Showalter!

lchic - 01:39pm Jun 17, 2002 EST (# 2596 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

I was interested to read how Watergate (1972) lead to the cutting back of executive powers in the US.

Looking in on the USA it seems the Executive hold areas that include 'foreign policy' -- it would be so much 'safer' on a 9/11 basis were their fp a matter for open congress debates - into which all sectors of the US community might input.

It can be seen looking at the world that there is really no such thing as 'security' ... security is a factor that has to exist in 100% of heads - expressed as 'confidence' in a fair systems throughout the world.

Truth and Fairness may run together.

rshow55 - 01:43pm Jun 17, 2002 EST (# 2597 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Things may be working out. My last conversation with a CIA officer went well, I thought. If I am, in fact completely unshackled . . . then I can do a lot !

The issue, now, is getting the "agreement" documented, in some way that is satisfactory enough for use, when I can't get a determination on paper (something they say they don't do, and I can believe they don't do very often.)

I'm wondering -- if I have some journalists and politicians call this CIA person -- can I get verifications, indirect but nevertheless solid enough to use? If so, I've made great progress.

Here's one of a number of tests for me. Can I go into the Russian embassy, and make a pitch for a movie deal? MD1229 rshow55 4/10/02 9:59am

Or make a proposal for a business deal involving some of my other technical work - including some that might have some military as well as commercial applications?

If the answer is "no, you're restricted" -- I have a problem.

I'm not sure, now, that I have a problem -- but some progress is being made toward finding out, it seems to me.

rshow55 - 01:46pm Jun 17, 2002 EST (# 2598 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Truth, fairness, efficiency and clarity often run together - - very often when relationships of procedures have to be changed.

Lies paralyze. Without fairness, people are much more prone to lie and evade -- and paralyze others and themselves.

Gotta go to a meeting . . .

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