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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 12:29pm Jul 13, 2003 EST (# 12988 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Did others notice the very nice image of Condoleezza Rice that appeared in the paper yesterday (on A5 in the National Edition) associated with this article?

, C.I.A. Chief Takes Blame in Assertion on Iraqi Uranium By DAVID E. SANGER and JAMES RISEN http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/12/international/worldspecial/12INTE.html

The internet image doesn't begin to do her justice.

Looking at the print image, I was struck by the resemblence NSA Rice showed to Ingrid Bergman in Casablanca - - where Bergman acted the part of an intelligent, beautiful woman - under stress, not backing down, and in full possession of her faculties.

I'm sure the President is man of great self possession - but if he isn't at least a little bit in love with Rice, I suspect I might be. A lot of men would be.

An illustrated script of Casablanca http://www.edict.com.hk/movies/casablanca/casablanca1.htm

I've discussed my admiration for Ms. Rice before - here's a good humored exchange between me and gisterme that touches on the point. http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md4000s/md4866.htm

rshow55 - 01:00pm Jul 13, 2003 EST (# 12989 of 17697)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

The same facts can be set out in different ways - and some can be more amusing than others.

Sometimes you can joke about them - without distortion of real facts.

The Tianamen square protests were a big story, and Wu Dunn and Kristof got a Pulitzer covering that story in 1990. Tiananmen was associated with an unforgettable photograph, that was covered eight years later, with the image featured again.

Tiananmen 'tank man' still at large

The lone Chinese protester who brought a column of tanks to a standstill in Tiananmen Square during the 1989 crackdown was never arrested and is still at large, a Hong Kong-based dissident group has said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/75679.stm

( An enlargeable image, if you subtract "AY EE and EE: http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/tank-1.jAYpEEgEE )

the Onion's 15-24 January 2001 issue looked at the situation with a different slant, with this story lead featured above the fold:

. Chinese Guy Still Insisting It Was Him In Front Of That Tank

That same issue led with this:

Bush: Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity is Finally Over

"Mere days from assuming the Presidency and closing the door on eight years of Bill Clinton, president-elect George W. Bush assured the nation in a televised address Tuesday that "our long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is finally over."

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lchic - 02:56pm Jul 13, 2003 EST (# 12990 of 17697)
ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

RS on CR the questions to ask are

  • 'who' is she
  • what does 'she' stand for
    followed by the where|when|why and |how| of it

    Is it significant that CR is female?

    Where CR a male -- how would RS then frame comment!

    :)

    lchic - 04:14pm Jul 13, 2003 EST (# 12991 of 17697)
    ultimately TRUTH outs : TRUTH has to be morally forcing : build on TRUTH it's a strong foundation

    Were CR a male? Interesting - she isn't the first female to fill this SS role ... perhaps communication skills are important here.

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