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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 11:07am Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8895 of 8905) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Are these problems intractable? From a distance, are they even difficult - set beside problems that have been solved near-perfectly in recent years - in the presence of all sorts of human confusions and conflicting interest? (Example: the problem of beer can manufacture - and many other complex socio-technical problems now well solved. ) We seem to be stumped by problems that should be easy to solve - if people could face facts, and facts about themselves - and do "obvious" things in their own interest and the interest of human decency. With what we know - it shouldn't take a "wizard" to play

. Wizard's Chess http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/05/opinion/05SUN1.html and points out that

If the body of assertions about fact on this thread, including those posted by Almarst , were checked - and the cost of doing so would be tiny compared to the costs of war - and the costs of continued and excessive containment policies - we could take the incidence of agony and loss from war way down from where it has been - and where it may otherwise be.

8829 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.JnhEafRa3bn.710061@.f28e622/10355

7117 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@93.NjydavTqZZa^0@.f28e622/8640

7118 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@93.NjydavTqZZa^0@.f28e622/8641

My first posting this year began with this:

7177 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@93.axIya8leZCh^1311940@.f28e622/8700.

" I think this is a year where some lessons are going to have to be learned about stability and function of international systems, in terms of basic requirements of order , symmetry , and harmony - at the levels that make sense - and learned clearly and explicitly enough to produce systems that have these properties by design, not by chance. "

People are facing up to problems - getting involved - and often, not running away. This is a fearsome, but also a very hopeful time. If responsible people at the Security Council and NATO act in ways that make them proud - and that they can proudly, clearly explain to themselves and the people they care about - this could be a very hopeful time. With some sensible action, and some checking - there's surely some room for improvement. If things go badly - a lot of people will have turned away from things they've known that they should do, and known that they should face.

lchic - 03:35pm Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8896 of 8905)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

3D-Chess

http://www.hypermaths.org/quadibloc/chess/ch05.htm

Rules of

http://private.addcom.de/meder/3dschach/chess3d.htm

lchic - 04:13pm Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8897 of 8905)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

http://www.poetsagainstwar.org.uk/

http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org/

almarst2002 - 04:29pm Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8898 of 8905)

"The accusation of US sabotage emerged from a series of Senate hearings on Capitol Hill. On Tuesday, George Tenet, the CIA director, told the armed services committee panel that the agency had provided the UN inspectors with all the information it had on "high" and "moderate" interest locations inside Iraq – those sites where there was a possibility of finding banned weapons. But Mr Tenet later told a different panel that he had been mistaken and that there were in fact "a handful" of locations the UN inspectors may not have known about." - http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=378163

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