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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:18pm Feb 13, 2003 EST (# 8878 of 8891) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

As of now, the Bush administration is preparing to wage war against Iraq - with estimates of American casualties well over a thousand - and estimates of Iraqi losses in the tens or hundreds of thousands - - with Iraq making many concessions - trying hard to accomodate - and with the fact of possession weapons of mass destruction in substantal doubt.

People with power - from other nation states - ought to ask themselves - and the United States - exactly why. Americans might want to do so, as well.

almarst2002 - 01:44pm Feb 13, 2003 EST (# 8876 refers to

Wizard's Chess http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/05/opinion/05SUN1.html and points out that

The problems are touching many more aspects then "Iraq, from North Korea and from the threat of reconstituted international terrorist networks."

If we tried - we might handle all these aspects better than we're doing now. After all - there's plenty of room for improvement.

8822 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.OjYyaSnE3IK.0@.f28e622/10348

Almarst , it seems to me that if Russia, or other nations - were clear about what they wanted from the United States - in terms that they could explain in public - they might well, after some work, find their needs satisfied.

Countervailing forces to the United States are coming into being - getting organized - in the NATO countries, among the countries on the Security Council - and in a lot of other ways.

It wouldn't take an unreasonable amount of staff work for us to sort out - and solve -a lot of problems. People are different - but workable standards of persuasion do exist.

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/8211.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/8214_8218.htm

8828 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.OjYyaSnE3IK.0@.f28e622/10354

8829 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?8@28.OjYyaSnE3IK.0@.f28e622/10355

If the body of assertions about fact on this thread, including those posted by Almarst , were checked - and the cost of doing so would be tiny compared to the costs of war - and the costs of continued and excessive containment policies - we could take the incidence of agony and loss from war way down from where it has been - and where it may otherwise be.

If leaders of NATO countries or nations on the Security Council asked for this - it seems to me likely that it would happen directly.

rshow55 - 09:22pm Feb 13, 2003 EST (# 8879 of 8891) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

references mistyped above, starting with a quote from Envisioning Information by Eward R. Tufte, p. 50 - - - are

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8211.htm

http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md8000s/md8214_8218.htm

lchic - 04:51am Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8880 of 8891)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

'Too hot, not to cool down'

a line from a lyric on Valentine's Day ...

http://pgoh.free.fr/just_one.html

it took two days for my Computer to cool down ... (Heat-Wave) but it's back!!

Raises the question - if these guys moving on Iraq are relying on computer technology - in the heat of an Iraqi day - will their chips just FRY!

lchic - 04:53am Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8881 of 8891)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Food for 250,000 available via the UN for potential Iraqi refugees ...

10million refugees anticipated ... meaning

    food for 1 | no food for 39

lchic - 04:55am Feb 14, 2003 EST (# 8882 of 8891)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The holistic planning for war ....

doesn't seem to happen does it?

It's just go in and bang bang bang

leaving a question as to what to do next!!??

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