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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2002 - 03:26pm Feb 8, 2003 EST (# 8708 of 8726)

Sing it to the tune of 'If You're Happy And You Know It Clap Your Hands'.

If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.

If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.

If the terrorists are frisky,

Pakistan is looking shifty,

North Korea is too risky,

Bomb Iraq.

If we have no allies with us, bomb Iraq.

If we think someone has pissed us, bomb Iraq.

So to hell with the inspections,

Let's look tough for the elections,

Close your mind and take directions,

Bomb Iraq.

It's 'pre-emptive non-aggression', bomb Iraq.

Let's prevent this mass destruction, bomb Iraq.

They've got weapons we can't see,

And that's good enough for me

'Cos it's all the proof I need

Bomb Iraq.

If you never were elected, bomb Iraq.

If your mood is quite dejected, bomb Iraq.

If you think Saddam's gone mad,

With the weapons that he had,

(And he tried to kill your dad),

Bomb Iraq.

If your corporate fraud is growin', bomb Iraq.

If your ties to it are showin', bomb Iraq.

If your politics are sleazy,

And hiding that ain't easy,

And your manhood's getting queasy,

Bomb Iraq.

Fall in line and follow orders, bomb Iraq.

For our might knows not our borders, bomb Iraq.

Disagree? We'll call it treason,

Let's make war not love this season,

Even if we have no reason,

Bomb Iraq

almarst2002 - 03:29pm Feb 8, 2003 EST (# 8709 of 8726)

Brit intelligence plagiarizes student's work for evidence dossier - http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/sept11/dailyUpdate.html

When US Secretary of State Colin Powell gave his dramatic presentation on Iraq to the UN Security Council on Wednesday, he recommended reading a dossier of evidence released by British intelligence earlier in the week. "I would call my colleagues' attention to the fine paper that United Kingdom distributed yesterday, which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities," Mr. Powell told the UN Security Council.

It turns out that the British weren't so intelligent in how they got their intelligence. The BBC says that most of the dossier was actually copied from three other articles, including a paper written by a post-graduate student from California that largely relied on information that was 12 years old.

lchic - 03:40pm Feb 8, 2003 EST (# 8710 of 8726)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

"They've got weapons we can't see"

One side of the coin is positive

the other a 'hidden' negative

Audit wise the hidden negative 'should' exist

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It's said that the UN report on Iraq that was 'grabbed' by the US for editing purposes ... that chemicals were supplied to Iraq by the USA ... is said to have been edited out

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So the USA as supplier of chemicals to IRAQ really is in a position to know a great deal about the 'hidden' negative

almarst2002 - 03:43pm Feb 8, 2003 EST (# 8711 of 8726)

Thousands of protesters in Munich, where Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is attending a security conference, demonstrated today against war in Iraq. - http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/09/international/middleeast/09RUMS.html

lchic - 03:47pm Feb 8, 2003 EST (# 8712 of 8726)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The 'hidden' negative of the Emperor's New Clothes was about 'conjuring belief' in repressed mind-sets.

The 'hidden' negative of chemical weapons - believed missing - is about 'conjuring belief' in skeptical mind-sets.

The 'hidden' negative of misappropriated funds - in unaudited defense directions - here the alledged missing funds be might compare with the missing chemicals .... in the public mind neither are easy to conjure.

Now you see it. | Exists!

Now you don't. | Did it ever exist?!

almarst2002 - 03:49pm Feb 8, 2003 EST (# 8713 of 8726)

"So the USA as supplier of chemicals to IRAQ really is in a position to know a great deal about the 'hidden' negative"

Probably. As well as it was known for while who Al Capone was. Why wasn't he just killed on a street of Chicago?

This is even more interesting case when gungster allegidly in a posession of a gun presented on a silver plate to him by a whole company including Judge, Procecuter and Policeman. If I may, For what "democratic", "humanitarian" purpose?

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