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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
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lchic
- 10:15pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (#
8338 of 8349) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Friedman
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/epaper/editions/today/opinion_e37319a745f6f10a10d1.html
" ... offer Saddam the following:
1. A U.S. commitment not to interfere with safe passage out
of Iraq for Saddam and his whole entourage. (I assume they
will want to go somewhere in the former Soviet Union.)
2. We understand that as a legal matter, the United States
could never and would never forswear the right to hunt or
prosecute Saddam for war crimes. But we need a public
commitment from you that America's ''priority'' once Saddam
leaves Iraq would be to focus on the rebuilding of that
country and not on hunting Saddam or any Iraqis who were once
part of his regime. This last point is critical, because Iraqi
army officers who want to stay behind --- and whose help you
will need in holding Iraq together --- have to know that they
will not be prosecuted. If they know that, there is a much
better chance they will pressure Saddam to go and cooperate
with you later.
3. A commitment by you to give whichever Iraqi general
succeeds Saddam a chance to work with you and the United
Nations to complete the disarmament in good faith and begin
political liberalization --- before you opt for any military
action. Iraq is a highly tribalized society, Mr. President,
and it can be held together for now only by the Iraqi army. We
know, though, there are Iraqi generals eager to put Iraq onto
a more normal path. It is true that if you occupied Iraq, you
could have more control over its transformation. You also
could find yourself in a hornet's nest.
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Interesting - why would the 'former USSR' want Saddam?
And WHY are 'TRIBES' more difficult to unify into a nation
.... where's their national pride, national value system?
rshow55
- 10:46pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (#
8339 of 8349)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Almarst has often pointed out - with good evidence -
the fact that the US has often been far from unambiguously
"one of the good guys."
lchic says:
Showalter - even though the UN and the data
doesn't add up to taking out Saddam .... because he's
complied
If he's complied, the US should do as it agreed. People on
the Security Council should be pretty clear, at least
privately, about what that is.
International law needs to develop so that standards of
internationally agreed-upon decency come to be accepted by
individual states - by a mix of force and persuasion. We
aren't there yet. It seems to me that we need to move in
that direction - not away from it.
In my view, that means that the United States has to care a
great deal about what other nations want to happen.
I think we need to get to a point where international law
can work.
For that to happen - nation states have to agree -and keep
their agreements.
In the Security Council discussions leading to the
inspections - the Bush administration pushed its position hard
-discussed a great deal --- and there were many, many, many
discussions, and assurances with many nations.
The committments made - the agreements about meaning people
were assured of - need to be honored.
International law is evolving - and the Bush
administration is right that there have to be
exceptions to the blanket prohibition on invasion. There have
to be exceptions to some other blanket rules, as well.
But the purpose of exceptions is to
further the purpose of the basic rule.
Not just to set the rule aside.
- - - -
Brutal dictators have terrorised their own people much too
often - but if we were less tolerant of lies - more insistent
on getting facts straight - they'd have a much harder time
doing it.
Too often the world has looked away - but if there was more
insistence on the truth - there would be much less looking
away.
Too often the 'mess' gets wider, deeper, uglier - but if
the "right to lie" was not so cherished - messes would clean
up more often - by ordinary human work.
Too often innocents suffer - - and the more deception and
lies are tolerated - the more likely that is.
Too often national economies are trampled --- and for
decades - - by patterns that couldn't stand the light of day -
if only the light of day shone more clearly.
- -
If getting facts straight were morally forcing -
we'd have a lot better chance of solving human problems.
Just now, in the Middle East, and in the Koreas - I think
there's more "bang for the buck" to be had from efforts toward
getting honesty (from everybody involved) that can be had with
military force operating unilaterally. We live in a far more
information-rich world than ever before - and there are new
possibilities we ought to take advantage of.
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