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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 09:20pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (# 8329 of 8349)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Cooper off a tangent, note if this is a forum then you should have been speaking to this point from the Showalter Post :

    Cooper seems to value ideas because they are high in status - I think, with Edison, that the most important things are the "things common to human beings" the points of shared space (RS)
So wearing your 'virtual Engineer's' hat ... why not comment and move the discussion along ...

lchic - 09:36pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (# 8330 of 8349)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

TRIANGULATION

    "External perspectives"- some of which are found in this publication - have helped the UNI to understand its inadequacies and fragilities.
    When Thomas A. Edison was asked how he felt after having spent a lot of time, effort and money performing about five thousand experiments until he managed to produce an electrical lightbulb that worked properly (the model we are still using today), he answered that he was satisfied because he had learned about five thousand ways of how not to make electrical lightbulbs.
    Without a doubt, the UNIs experienced the displeasure of trying to introduce innovations into institutions.
    They particularly learned about the power of some strategies, the force with which the old resists the new and, basically, one thousand "ways of how not to make lightbulbs".
    Currently, the biggest challenge they are facing is with respect to sustainability and institutionalization. The two are intimately related to each other. The greater the degree of institutionalization of innovations, the greater is the probability that the change will be sustainable, and vice-versa.
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Seems there's a lot of effort required to establish what is 'the new', that it works, and then to incorporate it in process when there are forces of resistance.

lchic - 09:37pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (# 8331 of 8349)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Thomas Edison

...Edison's teacher told him he was unable to learn.

Edison invented the light bulb.

http://www.addhelpline.org/famous_people.htm

lchic - 09:39pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (# 8332 of 8349)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Uncle SAM

... SAM's world-mates told him he was unable to learn.

Uncle SAM invented world peace .... well that's how the story should end!

rshow55 - 09:43pm Jan 29, 2003 EST (# 8333 of 8349) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

U.S. Fails to Sway U.N. Council on Iraq By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 9:15 p.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-UN-Iraq.html

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Key members of the U.N. Security Council said Wednesday that the United States has so far failed to convince them that time has run out for a peaceful resolution to the crisis with Iraq.

"At a crucial council meeting a day after President Bush's State of the Union speech, 11 of the 15 members supported giving more time to weapons inspectors to pursue Iraq's peaceful disarmament, council diplomats told The Associated Press.

" Calling for continued inspections were France, Russia and China, which all have veto power, as well as Germany, Mexico, Chile, Guinea, Cameroon, Syria, Angola and Pakistan. Only Bulgaria and Spain backed the United States and Britain in focusing on Iraq's failures rather than the inspections process.

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