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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:34am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8082 of 8085)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If leaders of nation states wanted things checked - this thread would be a fine place to start - and direct questions to George Johnson - from people with some real standing, might be a good place to start. A good deal is on the record. Some discussed on Guardian Talk threads where a good deal can be "triangulated" and everything that really matters is subject to checking - given someone with real power with the will to do so. Here is one reference to Johnson and his doings on this board. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/320

Here is a more important one, from early September of last year: http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/331

"This is George Johnson this time.

"You can examine me in light of Piaget all you want, but it's not going to change how I think, and it's not going to change the fact that your opinions represent a dangerous aberration that requires the strongest possible refutation.

"You will be checked and checked thoroughly.

"It is not for naught that we saw to it that you began posting here in the New York Times. This is a controlled venue. We know who you are and where you are.

"Don't call the CIA again. It won't do you any good. If you want to talk to us, just whisper into your pillow.

That posting was in response to this from me: "And it will be worthwhile to discuss the work of George Johnson (not that he's Cooper at all - but he does have a certain point of view) in terms of Piaget. And truth that is, somehow, too weak."

There's been a good deal of posting by Johnson characters, and gisterme since that time. People who know, or who have good reason to believe, that gisterme is, or is closely connected to, the President of the United States should find that interesting.

rshow55 - 08:34am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8083 of 8085)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

When I posted http://www.mrshowalter.net/bhmath on this thread - showing extensive work associated with Johnson some time ago - work I'm proud of, and that I think Johnson, when he's acting as an honest intellectual, ought to be proud of, too, it was removed by someone other than myself - and when I complained - reinstated. I took that to indicate, again, that I'm under control on this thread. The point is discussed in 6863, 6889, 6919, and 7052, this thread.

rshow55 - 05:33pm Jan 16, 2003 EST (# 7715 includes this:

"Some things aren't supposed to make sense. The relationship between me, the NYT, and George Johnson has gone on a very long time - and in many, many ways, the role of George Johnson - though he has done some good things - seems me to be shameful - and a discredit to both the New York Times and the Federal government - and I believe that Johnson should be ashamed, and people should refuse to deal with him. Johnson's role is espcially discredible for what it shows about the relationships between the NYT and the CIA.

"But there have been things that have been good, as well - and here are some references:

http://www.mrshowalter.net/rbcrit/

http://www.mrshowalter.net/simphil/

http://www.mrshowalter.net/whytimes2/

http://www.mrshowalter.net/finearts/

and especially

http://www.mrshowalter.net/bhmath/ http://www.mrshowalter.net/bhmath/ http://www.mrshowalter.net/bhmath/ http://www.mrshowalter.net/bhmath/

"When checking actually matters - Johnson is agaist it. George Johnson is a great wordsmith - but I have no way of knowing whether anything he writes is correct - unless I know a lot about it - and he exemplifies an astonishing betrayal of the fundamental trust that people have when they read and quote the New York Times - the presumption that something is probably true, because it was "written up in The New York Times."

There are things that need to be checked - and if leaders of nation states - perhaps especially France, Germany, and Russia - asked for some clarifications - subject to some "connecting of the dots" in public - a great deal that is now of deep concern to the whole world could be clarified.

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