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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 05:39am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8066 of 8072)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

The establishment of Israel revisited :

    "" . . . we protest against the political segregation of the Jews and the re-establishment in Palestine of a distinctively Jewish State as utterly opposed to the principles of democracy which it is the avowed purpose of the World's Peace Conference to establish. Whether the Jews be regarded as a "race" or as a "religion," it is contrary to the democratic principles for which the world war was waged to found a nation on either or both of these bases.55
Albert Einstein was also anti-Zionist. He made a presentation to the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, which was examining the Palestine issue in January 1946 and argued against the creation of a Jewish state. Einstein also later turned down the presidency of the state of Israel.56 In 1950 Einstein published the following statement on the question of Zionism.

I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from the practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain -- especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight without a Jewish state.57

Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook, Hannah Arendt and twenty-five other prominent Jews, in a letter to The New York Times (December 4, 1948), condemned Menachem Begin's and Yitzhak Shamir's Likud party as "fascist" and espousing "an admixture of ultra-nationalism, religious mysticism and racial superiority." The same theme is echoed in William Zukerman's 1934 article in The Nation, "The Menace of Jewish Fascism. "58 This is also the premise of Michael Selzer's book, The Aryanization of the Jewish State.59

For most Western Jews and many other people, the connection of Zionism to fascism and racism is odious and inappropriate. However, this theme is a recurrent motif in the debate on Zionism within the Jewish community. Even David Ben-Gurion, Israel's founding father and first prime minister, wrote an article in 1933 entitled, "Jabotinsky in the Footsteps of Hitler."60 Vladimir Jabotinsky was the founder of Revisionist Zionism and the mentor of Menachem Begin. .... http://www.israelaustin.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=148

commondata - 05:41am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8067 of 8072)

Limpseed you'd have a higher chance of response if you asked for their sperm count!

And that'd be making another unjustified assumption!

lchic - 05:42am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8068 of 8072)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Israel prevails in first Arab-Israeli war

1949 : Israel prevails in the Arab-Israeli war of 1948-9. Israeli forces recapture more of the ancient Jewish homeland, expanding the size of Israel by about 50 percent. http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/e41.htm

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=1949+Israel&btnG=Google+Search

lchic - 05:45am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8069 of 8072)
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1967: Israel's incredible victories.

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=1967+Israel&btnG=Google+Search

lchic - 05:47am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8070 of 8072)
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Israel 1967-1991

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991.php

lchic - 05:50am Jan 26, 2003 EST (# 8071 of 8072)
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A List of UN SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS against Israel

http://www.middleeastnews.com/unresolutionslist.html

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