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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 10:10pm Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7923 of 7941)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Isn't there a built-in constitutional duty - integral to accountable transparent government that demands public expenditures be checked, audited, and explained.

Dollars are scarce. Their deployment has to be set against all other demands of the economy and justified. The question "How best can each and every dollar be spent" has to become the norm.

What value is realised from each dollar's expenditure .... docs the multiplier effect come into play .... how often does that dollar circulate - velocity - to boost the economy?

lchic - 10:18pm Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7924 of 7941)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

"All animals are born equal - what they become is their own affair."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/11/27/1038362429902.html http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/22/opinion/22DOWD.html

almarst2002 - 10:19pm Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7925 of 7941)

"If you followed the first Gulf War you remember the infamous story of how Iraqi soldiers removed babies from incubators in Kuwait city; left them to die and shipped the incubators back to Iraq. This was front page news in every newspaper in the U.S. and the lead story on every major news station as the public was deciding whether to support going to war.

This story was repeated by President Bush senior in a number of speeches saying that such "ghastly atrocities," were like "Hitler revisited."

There is only one problem with this story. It never happened! It was a complete fabrication! - http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=2573

almarst2002 - 10:29pm Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7926 of 7941)

"Nobody's made the connection before between Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, Auschwitz and Prescott Bush," John Loftus told Clamor.

"That was the reason why Auschwitz was built there. The coal deposits could be processed into either coal or additives for aviation gasoline."

Even though Thyssen and Flick's Consolidated Steel was in their possession, Hitler's invasions across Europe spooked them, bringing back memories of World War I. Thyssen and Flick sold Consolidated Steel to UBC. Under the complete control of Harriman and management of Bush, the company became Silesian American Corporation which became part of UBC and Harriman's portfolio of 15 corporations. Thyssen quickly moved to Switzerland and later France to hide from the terror about to be unleashed by the Nazi war machine he had helped build.

A portion of the slave labor force in Poland was "managed by Prescott Bush," according to a Dutch intelligence agent. In 1941, slave labor had become the lifeblood of the Nazi war machine. The resources of Poland's rich steel and coal field played an essential part in Hitler's invasion of Europe. - http://www.clamormagazine.org/features/issue14.3_feature.3.html

almarst2002 - 10:33pm Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7927 of 7941)

Why has Presidential candidate George W. Bush been able to raise uncounted tens of millions of dollars? It can't be because of his positions on the issues; he has scrupulously avoided taking many. It can't be because of his knowledge of world events; he thinks being asked such questions is a trick." (He will embarrassingly lie, saying that he knows the answer to a question, and half a sentence later admit that he doesn't.)

No, George "I'm No Longer Drunk" Bush's support is because the Bush family fortune is old, and it's big, and comes from a century old alliance with the most powerful interests on Wall Street and in industry. Worse, part of Dub-a-Ya's money comes from grandfather Prescott Bush's financial alliance with the Nazis. THE BUSH NAZI CONNECTION - http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm

almarst2002 - 10:34pm Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7928 of 7941)

Gold Fillings, Auschwitz & George Bush - http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm

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