New York Times Readers Opinions
The New York Times

Home
Job Market
Real Estate
Automobiles
News
International
National
Washington
Business
Technology
Science
Health
Sports
New York Region
Education
Weather
Obituaries
NYT Front Page
Corrections
Opinion
Editorials/Op-Ed
Readers' Opinions


Features
Arts
Books
Movies
Travel
Dining & Wine
Home & Garden
Fashion & Style
Crossword/Games
Cartoons
Magazine
Week in Review
Multimedia
College
Learning Network
Services
Archive
Classifieds
Book a Trip
Personals
Theater Tickets
Premium Products
NYT Store
NYT Mobile
E-Cards & More
About NYTDigital
Jobs at NYTDigital
Online Media Kit
Our Advertisers
Member_Center
Your Profile
E-Mail Preferences
News Tracker
Premium Account
Site Help
Privacy Policy
Newspaper
Home Delivery
Customer Service
Electronic Edition
Media Kit
Community Affairs
Text Version
TipsGo to Advanced Search
Search Options divide
go to Member Center Log Out
  

 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

Read Debates, a new Web-only feature culled from Readers' Opinions, published every Thursday.


Earliest Messages Previous Messages Recent Messages Outline (7895 previous messages)

rshow55 - 08:27am Jan 22, 2003 EST (# 7896 of 7899) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Gisterme raised some points about oscillations, and how engineers strive to get rid of them in control systems - as they have since the 1940's. I've made the point that oscillatory solutions - where there are alternating adjustments - alternating points of view - conflicts - contradictions - and yet good adjustment and stability. The Bush administration, and the US military-industrial complex of interlocking, crosstalking, mutually reinforcing organizations are continuing to have fundamental problems that were of deep concern to the leaders of the US military-industrial-intelligence affairs from 1942 on - that is, since it became clear that control stability was an intractable problem. I'm quoting from Analysis of Nonlinear Control Systems by Dunstan Graham and Duane McRuer 1961 - Dover ed 1971 (I wore out my original edition - and am transcribing from the Dover edition.) This is a book I was given to read, and did read, in preparation to meeting Wolfgang Flugge, of Stanford, who had agreed to assist in my instruction, so far as engineering mechancs went, if I satisfied him with my mastery of this book. (I did, but Flugge told me I had only done so by the skin of my teeth. He was, however, willing to do me the great favor of flogging me into near-presentable shape - something he later told me he thought some of his associates and he had barely done. )

Chapter 10 - Epilog and Consequence

"Early investigators of feedback control systems, such as Minorsky (1922) and Hazen (1934) pointed out and treated important nonlinear characteristics. but in the explosive expansion of control system technology which followed the introduction of feedback amplifier design, attention was concentrated almost exclusively on linear systems for more than a decade (refs from 1932-47). During this time the analysis of nonlinear systems was often considered to be inordinately arcane, at least in the United States. Two survey papers which approximately bracket this period and which reflect the then-current view are the ones by Von Karman and by Bennet. The appearence of the comprehensive book by Minorsky, of hte english language editions of the source books by Kryloff and Bogoliuboff and by Andronow and Chaikin, and the papers by Goldfarb stimulated renewed interest in the problems of nonlinear control systems, ans showed the paths which have been followed since. (This statement, however, is not to be construed to say that there were not numerous other significant contributions to the theory of nonlinear mechanics and its applications. Every investigation of nonlinear control systems is, in fact, founded on the results of investigations in other branches of mathematics and mechanics. Very extensive historical bibliographies have been given by Higgens and by Ku.) The points is that the engineering literature on the subject of nonlinear feedback control systems is practically nonexistent for any year prior to 1950. Beginning in that year, there have been a continually increasing number of reports, papers, and books on the subject of this book.

"In spite of the many words which have been used her to elaborate the discussion, and perhaps to hide the fundamental fact, both the study and the physical synthesis of nonlinear control systems are, still today, in a somewhat unsatisfactory state.

" The multidudinous methods of mathematical analysis are amenable to particular problems, and there is no workable general theory. Of course, a solution to any given linear equation with given specific conditions or forcing functions may be easily and rapidly found by machine methods, and both analog and digital computers are common fixtures in industrial research and design departments, as well as in engineering schools. Where computing machinery is not available, step by step numerical or graphical methods may be applied by human computers to find one or more solutions. Eve

More Messages Recent Messages (3 following messages)

 Read Subscriptions  Subscribe  Search  Post Message
 Email to Sysop  Your Preferences  Logout

 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  / Missile Defense





Home | Back to Readers' Opinions Back to Top


Copyright 2003 The New York Times Company | Privacy Policy | Contact Us