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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lchic - 08:24am Jan 20, 2003 EST (# 7833 of 7836)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

Mrs Annan has written and illustrated a book - Tip Top characters learn about water.

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rshow55 - 08:35am Jan 20, 2003 EST (# 7834 of 7836) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

If enough people in the international community were concerned enough - scared enough - to insist on some checking of facts and ideas - we could sort out a lot.

But we'd have to face "what it means to be a human being" more honestly. We need an international law that actually works. That ought to be possible.

We need much clearer "social contracts" within nations, and between nations. That ought to be possile.

Again and again, checking, and the questions

"what are people being orderly about ; symettrical about; and harmonious about ?

are important questions. If we can answer them clearly - we'd do a lot of things better - and we could negotiate among ourselves more effectively, and much more safely - without being any smarter than we've been for a long time.

rshow55 - 11:41am Jan 20, 2003 EST (# 7835 of 7836) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

North Korea Talks Are a Success, Russian Says By REUTERS Filed at 10:23 a.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/international/international-korea-north.html

"SEOUL/MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian envoy held six hours of talks Monday with reclusive North Korean leader Kim Jong-il and said he was optimistic the nuclear standoff between Pyongyang and Washington could be solved peacefully.

"Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Losyukov emerged from the talks at a heavily guarded residence on the northern outskirts of Pyongyang to describe them as successful, but gave no details, said Russia's Itar-Tass news agency.

``The meeting was very substantive. The atmosphere was very warm,'' Losyukov said as he left to return to the Russian embassy.

``Moscow is optimistic that a solution to the crisis around North Korea can be found through peaceful means,'' he was quoted as saying.

"Moscow was counting on further contacts to hammer out the details of a possible solution to the crisis, the Tass news agency quoted him as saying.

" It was the first sign of a possible breakthrough in an impasse that began in October when Washington said the North had admitted to a secret nuclear weapons program.

"Pyongyang later kicked out U.N. nuclear inspectors, removed the seals from a mothballed reactor and pulled out of a global treaty preventing the spread of atomic arms.

"A suggestion by a senior U.S. official that the crisis should be brought before the U.N. Security Council places added pressure on Pyongyang to fall into line.

"Losyukov presented Pyongyang with a set of three proposals that call for the Korean peninsula to be nuclear-free in exchange for guarantees of the North's security and for the resumption of aid to the impoverished communist state.

"``We put forward our ideas on what a compromise solution to the current crisis could look like. The Korean side constructively and attentively considered these proposals,'' Losyukov was quoted as saying.

"``This work cannot stop at one round of talks and demands a significant amount of time, the comparison of positions and contacts with other sides in the conflict, including the United States.''

"He was believed to have given Kim, leader of the world's only communist dynasty, a message from President Vladimir Putin, Itar-Tass said. Russia is one of the few countries to maintain close ties with Pyongyang. Kim has visited Russia twice in recent years and Putin has made one trip to Pyongyang.

"The Russian envoy, the first foreign diplomat to meet Kim since the crisis began, was due to return to Beijing on Tuesday.

"U.S. officials have cited some progress in easing the nuclear crisis, the latest indication that Washington has moved away from its hard line of ``no talks'' by ditching a policy of refusing to reward bad behavior by the North now that the standoff has become a distraction from efforts to disarm Iraq.

"A senior North Korean diplomat tried to play down fears of conflict on the divided peninsula by saying the North had no wish to harm South Korea although it would regard any U.S. move to impose sanctions as a declaration of war.

"U.S. LOOKS TO SECURITY COUNCIL

"Losyukov's trip is part of a flurry of diplomatic initiatives.

"U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton, in Beijing for talks with Pyongyang's other main friend, said it was time to take the standoff to the U.N. Security Council and the council could handle the Korea problem as well as the Iraq crisis.

``I think it is now timely to bring the matter to the Security Council and I think we're confident that it could handle both Iraq and North Korea at the same time,'' i he said after meeting Chinese officials.

"Bolton said he did not sense that China, a veto-wielding permanent member of the Security Council, was opposed to taking the issue to the council.

"Taking the issue to the Security Council could

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