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rshow55
- 08:31pm Jan 18, 2003 EST (#
7800 of 7811)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Had a nice trip to some museums. Madison's a great place -
though everybody's too scared, too tight - and with a few
changes, the place would run better.
Quite often, when people have to solve problems,
they find a way. I find this very interesting. Pressure on
Saddam Hussein is mounting so high that Saddam may have to do
some clear thinking. Pressure on others is high, too.
Fearful Saudi Leaders Seek a Way to Budge Saddam
Hussein By PATRICK E. TYLER http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/19/international/middleeast/19SAUD.html
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, Jan. 18 — Increasingly
desperate to avoid war, Saudi Arabia is engaged in a
campaign to incite Iraqi security forces to overthrow Saddam
Hussein if he continues to refuse to step down or go into
exile, officials here say.
The Saudi leadership is advocating Mr.
Hussein's removal as part of a war-avoidance strategy even
as the kingdom signals Washington that it will cooperate
extensively with an American military buildup in the Persian
Gulf, including offering the use of crucial bases and
airspace, Saudi officials said this week.
What would happen if Saddam did what people want him to do
- - asked "what happens to the children?" in ways that would
work for everybody involved - and agreed to do his best
to actually clean up the mess he's made - preserving
the things he's done that have worked?
A lot of things might fall into place.
It is a good situation to give people a little time - to
solve problems where, if they only think straight - the
solutions are clear. People should keep the promises
that both their friends and their enemies want them to
keep - and make accomodations so that they can be "let off" of
promises that are in no one's interest.
If people asked "what happens to the children?" from the
point of view of the children THEY care about - again and
again and again - a lot could sort out well from
everybody's point of view. We're close to some very good
solutions, if people don't blow it.
What do Saudi mothers and responsible fathers want - when
they really think about it? What do Iraqi mothers and fathers
want - when they really think about it.
What do __ ( blank ) ___ mothers and fathers want -
when they really think hard about it - the way they
think when it really matters - when they are afraid enough to
think straight?
For (blank) substitute the name for people of any nation in
the world. We can do much better than we've been doing
- and it shouldn't even be hard.
I'm feeling optimistic. I think lunarchick is as
close to a perfect exemplar of feminine grace and
intelligence as anybody is likely to find in any culture, for
a long time. I've had a busy, sweaty day.
I'll be talking about repression tomorrow.
OUT.
lchic
- 06:06am Jan 19, 2003 EST (#
7801 of 7811) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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Repression / Miscellaneous
A Distinct Culture: Repression
1929 Prohibition ends, Depression begins Moral crusaders
have lots of free time! return to family values State begins
to pay attention increased vigilance of public drinking houses
All manifestations of gay life forbidden in public
Cross-dressing recriminalized Crack down on Gay meeting places
Film Code of 1930
http://history.ucr.edu/wmst/LecJun09/sld012.htm
Political repression
But how exceptional was Britain? Did it avoid revolution
by divine intervention, by good management and wise
statesmanship - or simply by luck? Historians nowadays are
far less likely to ascribe Britain's largely peaceful
progress in the 19th century to divine intervention. Some
have argued that the threat of violent revolution was indeed
real and that Britain escaped it, not by the hand of God but
by the skin of its teeth.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/society_culture/protest_reform/revolution_02.shtml
Tibet - Senator Bob Brown (Australia)
said yesterday in Beijing that his visit had shown there
was clear evidence of extensive repression of Tibetan
culture, with troops and security forces deployed in big
numbers and Chinese settlers swamping the region. Talks
with Tibetans had revealed there was a strong desire for
liberty and the return of their spiritual leader, the Dalai
Lama. "The Tibetans are being so overwhelmed they can't
breathe the word freedom," he said.
"My impression was that it was a giant militarized colony.
"The presence of army and militia vehicles and facilities
was quite extraordinary."
Senator Brown claimed he was only the second foreign
politician to visit Tibet unaccompanied since China occupied
the territory in 1959.
A United States congressman, Frank Wolf, visited Tibet for
five days as a tourist in August 1997 and later described
China's occupation as a "death grip" on the region's
indigenous population and culture.
lchic
- 06:09am Jan 19, 2003 EST (#
7802 of 7811) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
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women - repression
http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&q=repression+repression+culture+women&btnG=Google+Search
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