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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 04:27pm Jan 16, 2003 EST (# 7712 of 7715) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

<a href="/webin/WebX?14@93.eVu6a9uL0Jn^528706@.f28e622/9235">lchic 1/16/03 9:10am</a> . . .

"I have worked alongside Showalter since June2000 -- and find him sincere in his hope that the world will find solutions that minimise human tragedy."

I think that's consistent with our interaction, every which way - and if you look at the time spent, either on the board - or over the phone - that much fits.

Both lunarchick and I have made some other guesses about each other, too - and worked with them, for long times - and then switched them, variously.

I'm absolutely sure of a lot of things about lunarchick , in fact - though I don't know whether she loves me or hates me, and how, or about what - in a lot of sequences.

I'm certain that she's a wonderfully accomplished actress.

I'm sure she treats me like an experimental animal, though she doesn't.

I'm sure she gets some psychological pleasures from talking to me sometimes - and I KNOW I crave the sound of her voice.

I'm certain that she doesn't, on balance, want to go to bed with me - or hasn't wanted to so far. That one's easy. If she'd wanted to - it would have happened already - and there are too many cycles of interaction to wonder about that . I respect that fundamental carnal choice as hers to make absolutely - and have never tried to take that choice from her - though I have "stated my case" from time to time. My case is that, sometimes, I'd like to talk to her face to face. Because I think we've been saving something like 1000 lives/hour we've worked - but that, for closure - we face some challenges that look very difficult to me, if we can't meet face to face - or if I can't have some other help. I've had other motivations, as well. Naturally.

I'm also sure of this. Either, she's uninterested in me in the carnal ways because of her own free will - or because she's been subjected to coercive pressures that might be a credit to the Talaban - but coercive patterns that are far, far less reasonable - much more ugly - within the ideals of the United States of America.

I am also certain that lunarchick is, far and away, the most valuable mind I've ever been near to personally - or known enough to judge. And the most symettrical, poetic, beautiful - and, on balance - the most academically beautiful in the ways that matter to me. And the ways that matter to most other people, as well.

In 7683 I said that

There are some formal analogies between all patterns of animal cooperation I know and bird courtship. It is especially important - for safety - that we know this more clearly in matters of diplomacy and trade - so we can be safer, and richer - and things can be more comfortable for all concerned - within inescapable animal constraints that no imaginable diety could change now.

Just afterwards, manjumicha1 - not manjumicha , suggested, as if he had a coercive right to - that I leave this board, and the Guardian boards for at least three months. I don't feel I can or should defer to that advice, just as stated, unless I have conclusive evidence, usable in court - that manjumicha1 has significant rank in the NYT organization - and will admit that in public - in checkable ways. But I am taking care about my stress levels, and those of others - and moving slowly and carefully.

These hopes seem reasonable still . . . in fact, practical, from where we are - step by step, and pretty quickly, if some tragic mistakes can be avoided. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1662

I think that they can be. There's nothing I know or do that can't be gracefully, comfortably taught to other people - who will be able to handle many problems more easily and gracefully than I can hope to do. It can happen soon - and it seems to me that, in significant ways - the process is well along. If that's right, the incidence

rshow55 - 04:30pm Jan 16, 2003 EST (# 7713 of 7715) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

These hopes seem reasonable still . . . in fact, practical, from where we are - step by step, and pretty quickly, if some tragic mistakes can be avoided. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b2bd/1662

I think that they can be. There's nothing I know or do that can't be gracefully, comfortably taught to other people - who will be able to handle many problems more easily and gracefully than I can hope to do. It can happen soon - and it seems to me that, in significant ways - the process is well along. If that's right, the incidence of agony and death from war, and the horrors of poverty as well - can be greatly reduced from where they have been and are now - without anybody having to change so very much.

I'm trying to tell the truth - at a level universal enough that Koreans, and Arabs, and Americans - and other people can actually understand some things about being careful that I believe could same many, many millions of lives - and make a lot of lives better. We need to take just a bit bigger bite out of "the apple of the tree of knowledge" - - and lie to ourselves and others just a bit less. Not so much more of a bite, at that. Not so much less lying, either, but some.

I hope manjumicha1 doesn't mind my posting too much, and that if other people want me to move more quickly, they'll forgive me for trying to be careful, and moving slowly.

Some things are moving very well, and in ways consistent with near perfect and stable accomodations.. Korean Peninsula: 2 Koreas Agree to Resume Talks on Nuclear Crisis http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/16/international/asia/16KORE.html

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