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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 07:33pm Jan 11, 2003 EST (#
7600 of 7612)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
I'm sorry to move slowly - but I'm trying to communicate
some lessons about canonicity - about order-symmetry-and
harmony - and about the golden rule - under circustances where
some key players will not meet with me face to face in ways
that can generate clear, clean, neat, documented truth tables.
Things can comb out if we're careful.
Some things are uncertain - but you can be sure enough
about the things that matter for action - if you take your
time.
There is a "real world" in the ways that ought to matter
for action. And we can agree on everything that matters for
action. With small disagreements. And small oscillations.
We can't agree on everything - some disagreements
happen in systems of disagreement - and we shouldn't
want to agree about everything. Or even want to agree
about all the big things.
We can do much better than we've been doing - if
we're careful - and there's good reason for hope now.
I wish I could move more quickly - but I'm trying to be
careful.
Got a better glasses perscription - though it would be
impossible to reconstruct how that happened in detail - about
some things - though everything could be sorted to within a
sequence of "big disagreements" that don't matter for action -
as far as the perscription goes.
The statistical argument you get to when you click
"rshow55" in the upper left hand corner of my postings
is important if you're wondering how a completely degenerate
code like language can work as wonderfully as it does. Some
things can be very clear to everybody - even there is
massive disagreement about other things.
We don't have to kill each other - or even much
inconvenience each other - at the nation state level - about
these "massive disagreements" - if we're careful - and ask
even friends, and even enemies - to explain themselves in
public, and be subject to some testing, when it matters
enough.
I'll be taking some time - worrrying about how to explain
ways to improve canonicity - where improve means more
beautiful - more orderly - more symmetrical - more harmonious
- every which way that matters enough that we ought to worry
about it, when we're decent about balancing what we do in
human terms that can be explained in public.
rshow55
- 07:44pm Jan 11, 2003 EST (#
7601 of 7612)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
7567 rshow55
1/10/03 1:27pm . . you can do this many times - and comb
out a lot.
Enough so we can do a lot better than we've done -without
being either smarter or more honest than we are - except for
this.
When it matters enough - key things need to be set out in
public - and checked to closure in specifiable ways. If people
could accept this - that would be a big change - and a
lot could converge to much better states - cleanly and
neatly.
It has to be possible to check Americans , too.
Out for a while.
bbbuck
- 08:04pm Jan 11, 2003 EST (#
7602 of 7612) "You can't eat this, it's people,
it's people"-B....."What about the cherry pie?"
Promise?
lchic
- 08:32am Jan 12, 2003 EST (#
7603 of 7612) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Iraq
lchic
- 08:48am Jan 12, 2003 EST (#
7604 of 7612) ~~~~ It got understood and exposed
~~~~
Greece, which has just taken over the presidency of the
European Union for the next six months, says the final
decision on any military action must rest with the United
Nations.
It intends to lead a diplomatic mission to the Middle
East soon.
The Greeks have plenty to occupy them as they take over
the helm of the EU for the next six months. UN weapons
inspectors need time to do their job
But they admit their presidency could be dominated by
Iraq.
And on that issue their main goal is very clear - they
want to avoid a war.
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