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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lunarchick - 10:57am Jan 9, 2003 EST (# 7521 of 7532)

? ID advocate

commondata - 10:58am Jan 9, 2003 EST (# 7522 of 7532)

you can't test the creationists - and so what good can a creationist argument be?

In my view, none.

rshow55 1/9/03 10:38am - They have a right to that. You or I don't have to agree with them.

They sure do, and they have a right to believe the Earth is flat. As long as they don't want my tax money, pollute the minds of my children, or run the world (as they seem to at the moment) I don't have a problem. I was surprised that you were an ID advocate and that you were a torture advocate. Once again, you have a right to those beliefs and I have the right to disagree. And if we could take those arguments to logical closure I'd be confident of winning.

commondata - 11:03am Jan 9, 2003 EST (# 7523 of 7532)

lunarchick 1/9/03 10:57am - ? ID advocate.

Intelligent Design, advocated here: rshow55 1/9/03 8:41am

Delete buttons not working.

lunarchick - 11:09am Jan 9, 2003 EST (# 7524 of 7532)

chinese burn n. Playground punishment/torture consisting of the rotation of skin near the wrist in two opposing directions simultaneously causing friction burns or a sensation of heat in the victims forearm cf. Japanese burn

japanese Burn n. like a Chinese burn but round your neck cf. chinese burn

http://www.odps.cyberscriber.com/

Torture - kids use it on kids.

lunarchick - 11:16am Jan 9, 2003 EST (# 7525 of 7532)

Note - proof read before posting - "say it again!"

Delete button - said to be 'disabled' intentionally ... folks can't come on board - do havoc-y things then fly off ... a need to ID-entify re Hackers.

rshow55 - 11:18am Jan 9, 2003 EST (# 7526 of 7532) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

commondata 1/9/03 11:03am - - we could disagree about fundamentals - and at all levels - and still be completely agreed on what it made sense to do - in the here and now - but some things between us and our fields of responsibility would need to be clean. Neat. Combed out. There would have to be tests of questions of fact - possible to within a sign change -- and there would have to be conventions.

Neither of us have the time, or the wisdom - but the things we care about enough - that actually effect action - we can either agree on - or have a well defined fight about. Though, under a few circumstances, we might have a fight, at some level or other.

I'm a believer in evolution, too. And testing - - and the fact that in an "infinite series" successive terms of successive corrections, in almost all convergent cases, go + - + - + - + - and in trig and elsewhere - two different series can be the same except for phase shifts. Some of them indeterminant in integer number.

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