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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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manjumicha - 01:45am Jan 6, 2003 EST (# 7409 of 7418)

gisterme

I don't think the "tailored containment" will work out as the US hawks thought it might...:-)

It might just end up with a hot explosion......very very "hot"...indeed.....and not just for SKs, Russians, NKs, Japanese, Chinese, etc. NK's point about building up their "deterence capability" was to make sure that if things get "hot" it will get "hot" for everyone,including you, gisterme. Here is NK's latest reply to no-talking jilted US :

North Korea Defiant as Diplomatic Exchanges Fly By REUTERS Filed at 0:53 a.m. ET

North Korea said it had ``increased its self-defensive military capability'' to cope with the ``U.S. intensified policy to invade and stifle it with nukes.''

``If the U.S. unleashes a nuclear war on the Korean peninsula, it will not escape its destruction,'' Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said.

You see, gisterme.

Chinese and Russians have dealt with NKs for centuries and know how NKs have bled the empire of the days. That is why they are staying out of this fight.....their strategic interests will be best served if NK and US keep duking it out...........the end result will be much diminished US influence and power in NE Asia...you are too dumb to see it, gisterme.

Unlike you, I bet Rummy and Wolfy see the negative impact on US interest but don't really mind it as long as their real masters in Likud party and American jewish rights are happy about the prospect of disrupting the arms flow from NK to Arabs, their first strategic goal. Too bad Bush jr. is being played liek a flute (his dad and the real patriots who served him never let them play the game on them.....that's why Bush Sr lost an election despite the Gulf War victory and Clinton became the first "jewish" president (even you can get my drift, hopefully....as exemplified by his presidentail pardons...Mark Rich, New Town, etc etc).

Or maybe I am wasting time.

rshow55 - 07:03am Jan 6, 2003 EST (# 7410 of 7418) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

rshow55 1/5/03 6:01pm still seems reasonable, and not too ambitious to me.

The Bush administration has done a lot of detailed things very well lately, and so has the TIMES - the things I said in rshow55 1/5/03 6:01pm - - still look right - and I feel I've gotten a lot done. Feel good about some things I've done about sorting - and I'm going to rest a while, try to sleep for maybe and hour, and see if they write down as cleanly as I think they should.

I'm really hopeful - and people seem to be working hard and carefully. You can't be very sensitive in one area - or according to one sort - and escape being totally insensitive about some other area - or other sort. So people can have some very good reasons for being angry at each other. But it seems to me that things can be sorted out a lot better - enough to keep wars from being reasonably necessary - and in ways that are very much in the interest of the US, and other nations involved. I think President Bush is right about a lot of things.

I've been having a little fun reading Donald Knuth's The Art of Compter Programming - - because it is a pretty, solid, nice book - and because the kinds of things that go wrong in computer programs also go wrong in social organizations - and social organizations in interactions - though there are crucial differences, too.

I think I have a few things straighter than before, and I'm being careful. Will have more later today. Pardon me for being very insensitive to other people's needs, a lot of the time. I'm going to take a nap now, and then cook breakfast. I deeply appreciate this thread, and the interesting, thoughtful work on it.

lunarchick - 07:33am Jan 6, 2003 EST (# 7411 of 7418)

'The Poster' do note : My STATE ....

    · Area 1,727,200 sq. m; Coastline length 7400 km 22.5% of Australia.
    · By way of an international comparison, Queensland covers seven times the area of the United Kingdom, is more than twice the size of Texas and five times larger than Japan.

lunarchick - 07:45am Jan 6, 2003 EST (# 7412 of 7418)

The UN must endorse Secularism for all nations.

Were this to be.

Then ... notions of a PAN-ARAB geographic sweep ... could not happen.

Rather - all nations would be secular and supportive of their people derived from all and every other nation.

lunarchick - 08:10am Jan 6, 2003 EST (# 7413 of 7418)

300 000 children worldwide caught up in the hell of being used as child soldiers.

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