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gisterme - 05:22pm Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7283 of 7287)

lunarchick 1/3/03 3:35pm

"...I don't remember Showalter advocating a totalitarian regime..."

Of course you don't remember Showalter advocating a totalitarian regime, commondata. If he did so it would prematurely reveal that little difference between projected perception and reality that I was just talking about.

What Robert advocates is that "torture can be an essential part of a system". Since there's been so much discussion about connecting dots here on the Missile Defense forum lately, commondata, why not try you own hand at it? See if you can connect Robert's "torture as an essential part" and "system" dots?

You either can't connect those dots, or you don't want them connected. Otherwise, why would you have said, in response to Robert's revealing little slip, "...torture can be an essential part of a system...",

commondata 1/3/03 1:41pm

"...Rshow, that's lunatic; I look forward to the justifications once your head's reorganised..."???

You know, commondata, when that queston first came to mind I thought the answer was because you are a naive idealist, but not a stupid one. However, now that I think about it, there could be another answer. You could also be upset that Robert let the cat out of the bag. You might want him to do some damage control once he gets his head screwed on straight again. Perhaps you think he's not doing his thing in a "right headed" fashion. Now that possibility is food for thought.

"...Ah, but your paranoia's got you covered - he's a bait and switch communist..."

Going so quickly to the attack are you, commondata? Makes me think you're more than just the naive fan after all.

"...You're a lunatic too..."

So you say, commondata, but I notice that you don't further refute the substance of what I've said.

To be completely fair, I'll extend my invitaion to you for connecting the "torture can be an essential part" dot and "system" dot to whomsoever will, commondata. Perhaps some additional insight will come from that exercise.

Anybody else care to try connecting those dots?

lunarchick - 05:35pm Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7284 of 7287)

Gisteme and Miriam* Webster are 'good buddies' :)
* Merriam

Let's look at people within a marriage as customers of that institution.

How satisfied are they?

How is dissatisfaction shown?

In the USA people see marriage as a vehicle for togetherness .... until they want to travel in different directions. Records of divorce rates show that rather than be harnessed to misery they quit and re-align. Of course there may be positives and regrets, but the reality is that as customers they each look for the 'best' they can achieve from life ... which is too short and precious a thing to spend unhappily.

In closed cultures the 'truth' of the relationship often is restricted from surfacing.

The bbc radio-docco-Afghanistan - reporter spoke with a woman who had been abandoned because the five daughter family did not contain one son ... abandoned she'd had to turn to prostitution having no income source and six mouths to feed.

The value of women and daughters in such a system has to be upgraded.

If the Afghans are 'customers' of the USA, who can help upgrade the position of women in society, then therein is a challenge that can be met. As i've said (above) were money and loans channelled into these cultures via women and women in business, then, the 'health' of the culture would be enhanced.

Some customer terms and definitions

^{Were Doctor PHIL to look at people within the non-functioning muslim marriage ... what would he say, what advice would he give, and how important would he weigh personal happiness and self-actualisation?}

lunarchick - 05:51pm Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7285 of 7287)

One group of lunatics who get discussed on this thread are a certain USA organisation who've had to report back to seemingly no-one!

These lunatics were loose in South America carrying out in individual and ad hoc fashion personal interpretations of foreign policy.

Connecting lunatic dots ..... and remembering who/where Showalter used to work .....

Then if Showalter says that his employer opted for coersion ... using methods of torture .... it is not beyond belief.

Back to dissatisfied customer(employee) ... telling eleven times .... Showalter has eluded to this matter both on this thread and GU thread ... a few times ... not quite eleven as yet ...

An employer buys into human services ... but should not move in on 'the mind' to remove free-will using techniques of torture.

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