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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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kalter.rauch - 04:58am Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7257 of 7261)
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rshow55 1/1/03 12:05pm

Yes, you're right. I AM trying to monkeywrench what you're doing BY being UGLY......UGLY and INSULTING!!!

WHY???

...because practically ALL your "efforts" are an INSULT to common sense. If anything, your posts are self-indulgent exercises in empty rhetoric.

The few times I've forced you to adhere to THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD...Missile Defense...you absolutely refused to address the SOLID evidence I presented that the premise is sound......preferring instead to call me an "idiot" and make your usual vague promise "to get back to me", which of course you had no intention of doing.

Your fantastic statistic...that you and Lunarchick are saving a net 1000 lives per hour by your combined "works" IS A MOST UGLY INSULT to the tortured and executed victims of the world's dictators. If anything, Hussein and Jong Il take great sustenance from the fig leaves you supply their policies...GRATIS!!!... by your appeasement sentiments.

[I have to admit to being repellantly intrigued by your invocation of Bill Casey in support of your defeatist attitudes.]

If you REALLY want to deflect the course of world events you should directly petition pariahs like Hussein and Jong Il. After all, you seem to think they're amenable to reason and that they speak for the aspirations of their abject subjects. I hear Saddam Hussein has his own website. Why don't you spam the SOB with the deadening contents of this thread......maybe you'll singlehandedly avert war and REALLY save 1000s of lives?!?!?

kalter.rauch - 05:13am Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7258 of 7261)
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NEGOTIUM PERAMBULANS IN TENEBRIS !!!

kalter.rauch - 05:18am Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7259 of 7261)
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manjumicha 1/2/03 4:23pm

It's no doubt impossible for you to understand why you MUST wash your hands before eating......

rshow55 - 06:11am Jan 3, 2003 EST (# 7260 of 7261) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

kalter.rauch 1/3/03 4:58am is 100% wrong, and intentionally perverse in spots - but a 12 hour shift in the dial gives a time that's right again, and this is an interesting suggestion. . . . though as usual, Kalter's language is set up to destroy the shared space that communication to closure needs.

Kalter: "If you REALLY want to deflect the course of world events you should directly petition pariahs like Hussein and Jong Il. After all, you seem to think they're amenable to reason and that they speak for the aspirations of their abject subjects."

Might do that. But posting on this thread might be direct enough. E-mail works. And who knows? Maybe Saddam or Jong Il, is they saw this thread, would be so out of it that they'd look at the magnitude of the effort, and the sharpness of the words, and think something important was going on - because they might think the New York Times is supporting efforts on this thread.

Which is a mistake, of course, since the record clearly shows that this thread is an immune response - an effort to isolate, to blunt, to evade clarity.

If somebody with some rank sent the links to some of this thread to Saddam or Jung Il, it might pack a whallop.

I'm going to read a lot of this thread carefully - but from a perspective of switching logic, and grazing, courtship, predation, and grammatical, social organizational, and control systems analogs. Especially under population, time, and resource pressure.

I had some very nice speeches organized in my head, before I connected here and saw what was written - interesting stuff - but I do feel like posting the following poem, and asking what the problems set out do to the probability of mistakes and horrors from outsiders - like Saddam and Jung Il. Maybe they misinterpret us somehow. In a few spots. Wouldn't be surprising.

Might take some special skills to sort out. Casey thought such problems might occur, and worried about it.

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