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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 03:34pm Jan 20, 2003 EST (# 7845 of 7853)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

<a href="/webin/WebX?14@93.7eGZaqR91lQ^1112474@.f28e622/9366">manjumicha1 1/20/03 2:39pm</a> - - - I hope you're wrong about Bolton vis-a-vis the Chinese - thought deniability in these affairs may not hurt. I think the idea of the Security Council as a place to sort out both the Iraq mess and the Korean mess makes a lot of sense. And there will be a lot of concern to give both the N. Koreans and the Iraqis a fair shake in that forum. Plus, the discussion will help focus and define international law - and that's important. And I have nothing but praise for the Russians and the N. Koreans, if this report is representative:

North Korea Talks Are a Success, Russian Says By REUTERS Filed at 10:23 a.m. ET

SEOUL/MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian envoy held six hours of talks Monday with reclusive North Korean leader Kim Jong-il and said he was optimistic the nuclear standoff between Pyongyang and Washington could be solved peacefully.

I was encouraged by the details and stances reported here, as well:

At U.N., Powell Urges Unity in Confronting Saddam Hussein By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-US-Iraq.html?pagewanted=print&position=top Filed at 1:28 p.m. ET

UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Secretary of State Colin Powell implored other nations Monday to face up to Saddam Hussein, saying the world body ``must not shrink'' from its responsibility to disarm Iraq.

``We cannot be shocked into impotence because we're afraid of the difficult choices ahead of us,'' Powell told members of the United Nations Security Council.

Powell, who faced a new burst of skepticism in talks with other leaders earlier Monday, was urging reluctant nations to focus on Baghdad's failure to disarm and to prepare to weigh the consequences by the end of the month.

I'm not accusing, manj , but sometimes, looking at reactions from press folk, a category that C.P. Snow described as one of his least favorite human types occurs to me. The "cynical and unworldly."

Looks to me like people are being careful, and trying to do their jobs. Maybe even people close to bin Laden, and bin Laden himself. There was an interesting piece yesterday on the wires - and I've been looking at it . . let me see if I can find it. Maybe we can reduce our risks from terrorism partly by correction - with a little less emphasis on extermination.

rshow55 - 03:42pm Jan 20, 2003 EST (# 7846 of 7853)
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At U.N., Powell Urges Unity in Confronting Saddam Hussein By BRIAN KNOWLTON, International Herald Tribue 3:07 PM ET http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/20/international/middleeast/20cnd-nati.html

The secretary of state today implored reluctant nations to focus on Baghdad's failure to disarm and to prepare to weigh the consequences by the end of the month.

Iraq Bows to Demands From U.N. Inspectors http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/20/international/middleeast/20cnd-iraq.html

From the nations respective positions - these are responsible stances, within what can be hoped for. I think the chances of excellent adjustments are getting good - and the arrangements may be of great service to the whole Islamic world - and maybe especially Palestine. Israel as well. Some problems are messy enough that, with sorting, the likelihood of improvements all round is pretty good.

lchic - 06:00pm Jan 20, 2003 EST (# 7847 of 7853)
~~~~ It got understood and exposed ~~~~

There is a definate feeling that things are moving 'forward' right now with respect to a reduction of need for nuclear-toys.

Folks are digging into their bags of words: words diplomatic | words peace | words negotiation | words social | words economic & business --- and of course word~mishapes - the flat, squashed, broken, antique along with Second~language~words~invented, picking them over carefully, polishing them up until they shine to use appropriately.

Viewing back from WWII until the now - what were the major markers ... what moves by peace groups were really effective ... a salute to the women of Greenham Common who said get those nukes off UK soil ....

..... looking at peace groups -- so many of them -- carrying the desires of huge masses of population .... but overall have they been 'that' effective

.... has peace been a 'leadership issue' all along rather than a 'popular' one?

.... have peace groups helped towards peace ... have they educated .... had a trickle down effect ... or .... when institutions are set-up do they just become 'Yes Sir' 'No Sir' to leaders and a 'make-work' employment entity?

Oh i forgot ... 'The Poster' raises objections to questions being placed on the board ... but how else can critical evaluation processes begin?

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