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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
"Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed
considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense
initiatives more successful? Can such an application of
science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable,
necessary or impossible?
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rshow55
- 08:31am Dec 24, 2002 EST (#
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Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
When these principles are thought about - every so often,
some of the details that people need to tend to, to
make ideals actually work - may occur, where they wouldn't if
people weren't reminded.
I believe that if a lot of people in the Bush
administration, and elsewhere, read Kline's book - things
might go better.
They's also notice how useful the far better writing
skills of lunarchick and many other good writers are.
In 1997, Steve and I wrote about what we thought the NYT
Science Forums were good for: http://www.mrshowalter.net/whytimes2
When people have to deal with details - including the
details that are needed to really work out the golden rule -
they need to understand enough about what they're doing to
come up with answers that are not only well intentioned, but
can work. http://www.mrshowalter.net/a_md01000s/DetailNGR.htm
Details on Missile Defense matter a lot, too - and to get
them explained, and taken to closure - will take more
organization than this unaided thread can provide with my
unaided efforts.
So do many other details about US political and
military policy, many discussed carefully and extensively by
almarst.
lunarchick
- 11:39am Dec 24, 2002 EST (#
6988 of 6992)
Irvin D. Yalom
""Sometimes I fear the future because of the dangers
that irrational belief creates for our species. It is
supernatural belief, not absence of belief that may destroy
us. We need only look to the past to trace out the huge
swaths of destruction that unyielding conviction has caused.
Or look to contemporary conflicts in the Mideast or the
Indian subcontinent where conflicting and unyielding
fundamentalist belief systems threaten millions. I love
Nietzsche’s aphorism that it is not the courage of one’s
convictions that matters but the courage to change one’s
convictions.
rshow55
- 12:02pm Dec 24, 2002 EST (#
6989 of 6992)
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
Yalom's Dictum: (from Kline, above)
. There is a strong correlation between
the hardness of the variables and the triviality of the
problem in my field. (Yalom's field is psychiatry)
When people are not clear and agreed about definitions - on
issues where the people involved care, and have reason to care
- that means there is important work to do - good
reason for intellectual effort, care, and focusing.
Irrational beliefs are dangerous - and in order to sort
them out - to contact them - what is "believed" needs to be
focused and defined.
When people are fighting, or on the verge of fighting - it
is especially important to see what the fights are about. When
that is clear - there is new hope.
I think the Science Times today has two magnificent
articles!
lunarchick
- 12:15pm Dec 24, 2002 EST (#
6990 of 6992)
One notices an acknowledgement from
Kline regarding input from Showalter regarding the above
book, Chapters 3-11 ....
One would think it is hard to initially laydown the
essence of a new academic area ...
lunarchick
- 12:18pm Dec 24, 2002 EST (#
6991 of 6992)
Nuclear Contradictions IR
http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.3ba79985/0
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