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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lunarchick - 07:30am Dec 23, 2002 EST (# 6972 of 6979)

France human rights

lunarchick - 07:40am Dec 23, 2002 EST (# 6973 of 6979)

War - people displacement - refugees - camps - resettlement - crime - unemployment - poverty - child trafficking & prostitution & slavery - cruelty - mental & physical torture ....

War - Iraq

Europe wonders ....

Europe hasn't got over the Balkan disruptions yet ... wonders if all displaced people should be put on flights to America DIRECT!

rshow55 - 08:39am Dec 23, 2002 EST (# 6974 of 6979) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

I repeated a joke about Stanford Deans, some long while back, with just a small link inconspicuously placed fairly close - and got an interesting reaction!

But it isn't a joke that Deans, and other academics, have a lot of logical fencing skills, and some fine examples of that skill are on display on some of Gisterme's recent postings.

Though logic isn't everything - and quite often "bad logic" offers good statistical guidance - especially when things are checked in many different ways, though each may be inconclusive alone.

Whoever gisterme is, (s)he has a lot of academic skills - including some admirable ones. 6966-69 make some very interesting points. As it happens, I think gisterme and I, for all our many differences and our sometimes warm words, share a great love for the United States - and a long list of reasons to be proud of the United States and its people.

Gisterme , you're saying some substantial things - some of which I agree with. And, by and large - I'll often give you high marks on sincerity, as well.

On some other things, I have some of the same reservations about gisterme that Paul Krugman has about GWB . Not that Krugman is infallible, of course - - .

If I'm moving slowly, it is in part because I think some things are going well - at a pace that is, if anything, a little too fast for clean convergence.

Also, just now, I have to cook my wife breakfast, so she can keep some promises. I'll be back - and I'm giving your postings a lot of weight in my mind - because, over a long time, you have shown a lot of effort and a lot of background. In my view (and I'm subject to checking) some serious mistakes and some indirection, as well.

lunarchick - 10:57am Dec 23, 2002 EST (# 6975 of 6979)

IRAQ | Wonder if G has the Gist of this :

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/12/23/1040510971971.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/22/opinion/22FRIE.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,864722,00.html

Tommo is on the breakfast menu!

as seen at

Guardian Talk | International
Gulf Arabs turn on Saddam Hussein

lunarchick - 11:25am Dec 23, 2002 EST (# 6976 of 6979)

http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Lyrics/xmas/18xmas.html

lunarchick - 11:32am Dec 23, 2002 EST (# 6977 of 6979)

Truth outs!


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