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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lunarchick - 04:57pm Dec 19, 2002 EST (# 6850 of 6858)

How much correcting to the NORM would the USA have to undertake were it to comply with minimum EU entry standards?

How long would it take the USA to adjust to these standards?

Is Turkey in advance, or behind, the USA wrt this?

Food for glorious thought isn't it!

lunarchick - 02:07am Dec 20, 2002 EST (# 6851 of 6858)

The origin of the gang-wars in LA

Isn't forgotten

Deported gang-war-kids thrive
Creating hell
thoughout Central and South
America

Children Killing

    others
    randomly
    freely
    frequently
Making cities
NOT SO NICE
'Shocking'
VIOLENT
unceasingly

America so full
of shrinks
should help
these gangs

That's what me-thinks!

dR2002

lunarchick - 02:07am Dec 20, 2002 EST (# 6852 of 6858)

The origin of the gang-wars in LA

Isn't forgotten

Deported gang-war-kids thrive
Creating hell
thoughout Central and South
America

Children Killing

    others
    randomly
    freely
    frequently
Making cities
NOT SO NICE
'Shocking'
VIOLENT
unceasingly

America so full
of shrinks
should help
these gangs

That's what me-thinks!

dR2002

lunarchick - 02:15pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (# 6853 of 6858)

Check-Box Repuplicans get ticked off

"" For the past two years domestic policy has consisted of little more than checking off the boxes http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/20/opinion/20KRUG.html

Check Box .....


Money for Texas
Tax relief for the rich
Best offer for a 'job lott'


rshow55 - 02:32pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (# 6854 of 6858) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Hold Your Nose and Negotiate By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/20/opinion/20KRIS.html refers to problems in North Korea, where we may have no choice but to negotiate, or have the key decisions made for us - in a dangerous situation.

Seoul May Loosen Its Ties to the U.S. By HOWARD W. FRENCH http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/20/international/asia/20KORE.html

I like the phrase " hold your nose and negotiate" as well ! If people used the phrase more often, a lot of things might go more smoothly. I'd suggest a generalization:

" Hold your nose and communicate . "

Too many situations never clarify and become soluble - and things are more dangerous and stark than they have to be, because people find it easy to find aesthetic and status reasons not to communicate and not to negotiate.

Reasons to avoid communication and negotiation are easy enough to understand.

All the same, we'd be safer, and a lot of things would go better, if people were more willing to talk and negotiate even when they felt there were "aesthetic" and "moral" reasons not to.

Real talking, finding shared space, usually involves a kind of negotiation. Negotiation about meaning.

Is it just my imagination, or are some useful negotiations going on now? Maybe 20002 will go down as a year where a lot of really big problems started to resolve effectively.

lunarchick - 02:43pm Dec 20, 2002 EST (# 6855 of 6858)

South Koreans have checkbox choices:


Go away USA
Make noises regarding USA
Wish USA a Merry Christmas

Korean said USA is important to them (bbc)

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