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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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fredmoore - 09:59pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6692 of 6716)

To all ....

The problem as I see it is .... you are trying to tell nature she must be nice ... you cannot do that ... she is a beast.

And ... I do not agree with certain folk, that this forum has been, and is, off topic. Knowledge is the best MISSILE DEFENCE and this forum is in the spirit of that knowledge. What is missing here is the realisation that technology has reached a level where we can avoid traditional military solutions to situational and global entropy surpluses and their accompanying chaos. I think we are all looking to avoid those military solutions but the answer is not in morality or social science or observing the Golden Rule. Rather it is in the following practical methods of decreasing ENTROPY in our environment:

1 Rally to change the Kyoto treaty to the following goals: 'every city over 1 million people to have a 1200MW geothermal power source by 2012', plus 'every stormwater outlet and every farm over 1000 acres on the planet to be terminated by a 3-10 acre engineered wetland by 2005'.

2. Provide support for a global Moon based solar energy corporation in which every person on the planet is a shareholder and investor to the tune of US$40. To be operational by 2010 and to have a US CEO in recognition of the historically positive leadership of the US.

3. Set up a global research corporation to perfect a mass produced THERMOELECTRIC fabric by 2010. This will be the most efficient maintenance free method of generating electric power from solar energy and staunching environmental problems caused by uneven heating of the earth's surface. Eventually there will be at least 6 billion units generating at least 1Kw for 12 hours out of 24.

The earth with decreasing energy stocks and a 6 billion person strong population is close to a kind of mathematical chaos .... too may consumers and not enough resources. War is the historical solution to that problem and no amount of polite discussion is going to change it. There IS reason to believe that without the above measures, war is the inevitable solution as per historical reference. We are too used to blaming prominent individulas and not able to recognise the underlying extremals of consciousness that are so poorly understood by any branch of learning.

Solve the problem: Entropy Deficiency Syndrome (EDS) .... decrease global entropy .... stroke nature's mane and watch her smile. But beware, she is always ready to bite your hand.

mazza9 - 10:21pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6693 of 6716)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

manjumicha:

I didn't say that the policy was a mistake, you did. Chamberlin's decision to bring about "Peace in Our Time" by dismantling a sovereign state, (Chechoslovakia) and "giving" some of it to Hitler, was the right decision at the time for Chamberlin and the rest of Europe, except Chechoslovakia! Might a bullet to the brain of Hitler saved the millions of military and civilians lost in Europe in WWII? Don't know, didn't choose that path. For you, hind sight is perfect but that doesn't make you perfect! Just a pontificating, puerile person.

When I was in the military we studied/war gamed various scenarios at a military staff officer school. I attended this school in the fall of '68. What we learned is decision making ain't easy! In one class I was the President and half the class was my National Security council and the other half the joint chiefs. The joint chiefs side of the class was to make a recommedation to me and my half of the class. Here was the scenario, The Warsaw PAC has liberated West Berlin and West Germany. The Warsaw pact forces are now approximately 60 miles from Paris! What do you do? To me this was an approximation of the war front in late 1914 when the Von Schlieffen plan was being pursued by the Kaiser? Well what would you do when several NATO countries have already been over run and Europe is jeopardy of a complete Soviet conquest?

Today's scenario is just as complicated and beyond your knowledge and understanding to comprehend. Buzz off child!

mazza9 - 10:28pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6694 of 6716)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Fredmoore:

Logic and reason will not be tolerated at this forum. How dare you post on point? Haven't you read the enlightened postings of the Looney Chick, Manjumicha and the Alarmest?

(BTW I agree with you! There was a recent piece regarding the 30th anniversary of the Apollo 17 flight. Astronaut/Senator Schmitt is trying to generate interest in returning to the moon to mine Helium 3 for fusion power plants to "light up my life" and yours etc. There a re solutions to the climate change, power generation and water purity which can raise every person on the planet to a high standard of living. But as long as there are those who suppose that "their WAY" is the only way then dictatorial abuse will confound us all)

bbbuck - 10:38pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6695 of 6716)
"You can't eat this, it's people, it's people"-B....."What about the cherry pie?"

Is looney-chick the reincarnation of tiny tim?

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