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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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almarst2002 - 11:04am Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6652 of 6661)

On her October 7 broadcast, CNN's Connie Chung took a U.S. congressmember to task for doubting George W. Bush. - http://www.fair.org/activism/cnn-skeptic.html

After Rep. Mike Thompson (D.-Calif.) told Chung that there seemed to be no evidence that Iraq posed an immediate danger to the people of the United States or its allies, the anchor responded, "Well, let's listen to something that President Bush said tonight, and you tell me if this doesn't provide you with the evidence that you want."

She then aired a clip from the speech that Bush made in Cincinnati:

"Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. "We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making, in poisons and deadly gases. And we know that after September 11, Saddam Hussein's regime gleefully celebrated the terrorist attacks on America."

After this soundbite, Chung continued: "Congressman, doesn't that tell you that an invasion of Iraq is justified?"

Thompson began to respond: "Connie, we haven't seen any proof that any of this has happened. I have sat through all the classified briefings on the Armed Services...."

But this questioning of what Bush said appeared to be too much for Chung. She interrupted Thompson's answer, saying, "You mean you don't believe what President Bush just said? With all due respect....you know... I mean, what..."

almarst2002 - 11:10am Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6653 of 6661)

CounterSpin broadcast: Joy Gordon on Iraq Sanctions - http://www.webactive.com/webactive/cspin/cspin20021018.html

almarst2002 - 11:11am Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6654 of 6661)

Iraq - http://www.fair.org/international/iraq.html

rshow55 - 12:57pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6655 of 6661) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=361736 ... John Pike is quoted as saying the war might be over in little more than a week. For me, "the odds of that being true" are quite high - and they weren't before I read that the quote was from Pike.

I think the most important thing about the situation is that we have a deal with the UN Security Council - and need to keep our word, and insist that others do - so that we can craft a workable international law.

But combat awkwardnesses and costs matter, as well, and http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=361736 is most interesting.

mazza9 - 02:34pm Dec 15, 2002 EST (# 6656 of 6661)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Manjumicha:

Here is a link to World Navies today. This web site lists the naval order of battle for a country's navy. Your bluster about a stealth sub varies with that of the experts who compiled this list. Your North Korean Boogey Man Sub doesn't exist. All of their ships are small vessels classifies as "coastal" in mission and range.

Let them come out into the "blue water" environment and they would, pardon the pun", be in over their head!

North Korea Naval Order of Battle

BTW this third rate bully wouldn't last an hour should it initiate hostilities against its neighbors or US!

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