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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:42pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6522 of 6527)
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almarst2002 12/11/02 8:35pm . . . if you ask me, that is only so useful.

No answer I can give you will be very important.

But if Putin - - and other leaders - leaders of the EU, of China, of Japan - of other nations - asked the Bush administration those questions - in detail that WOULD be very useful.

manjumicha - 08:48pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6523 of 6527)

And as for NK, almarst

Notwithstanding all the mistakes of US administration, NK ruling elites are pretty nasty lot any way you look at it. And there is no moral equivalency with US administration Now they do have justifiable concern regarding US threat of nuclear attack and that is precisly why they developed their own nukes and delivery systems. Hopefully there will be a regime change in NK too, but internally generated peaceful one. But I doubt Bush team has got the necessary wisdom to promote such developments.

almarst2002 - 08:49pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6524 of 6527)

"I can only have so much indignation about the United States, when other countries take so little responsibility."

I can only say that the price of trying to rule the world from the position of ultimate power. No other country can produce such inceredible amount of damage with no apparent reason as US does. Without feeling a pinch. It walks on this planet like an elefant crushing the cocroches on its way. Without even noticing it.

It is amasing, most of the thing we discuss here never get any chance to be shown by the mass media. The huge protests in S.K. about this incident are going on for days now.

No wonder some feel indignation. Its much more importand for Americans to watch the football results then death of some kids overseas from actions of its Goverment and military.

rshow55 - 08:50pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6525 of 6527)
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almarst2002 12/11/02 8:41pm . . . in the senses that matter for an American, I've been both spending my life, and risking my life - trying to sort out some messes that Bill Casey and others like him left. (And also trying to get some back pay - and keep some promises to investors.) Hoping to "clear my name" enough so that I can get some math and science done, as well (and make a living at it). I'd like to be able to sell some inventions, as well.

Mixed motives. But as near to pure "good faith" as you're likely to find available.

No question - there are plenty of things about the past to be displeased about. (And not only the US past - Russia, China, N. Korea, Iraq - and many other countries have done some gut-wrenching things.)

But where do we go from here?

It seems to me that there are a lot of hopeful possibilities - and we should pursue them - carefully - distrustfully - practically.

I'm hopeful.

Also tired.

OUT.

rshow55 - 08:56pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6526 of 6527)
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almarst2002 12/11/02 8:49pm - - - this thread is only as influential as it is - (even the NYT has its limits - and if it has limited courage - it also survives.)

If you want to make progress faster than we're doing it - call up some of your contacts in Russia, get to some leaders - and convince them to ask some questions.

If I got a phone call, and some things in writing - from the Russian embassy - I could do some things - after a bit of negotiation with the State Department.

If American are "monsters" - - perhaps most human beings are "monsters".

I'd like to hold Americans to a MUCH higher standard than other peoples - but they may only be a little better, or a little worse - in general - much the same.

Often, with "ordinary human beings" -- progress happens. Most of the time - indignation isn't especially helpful.

Really out.

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