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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 08:14pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6513 of 6517) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

commondata 12/11/02 7:30pm

"There are no sharp justifications in the positions of the US and UK - only half-truths, non-truths, oil, money and guns. The one thing George Bush and his government are not doing, is pursuing facts to closure in public."

If the nations in the UN security council, working together, can't get the US to act reasonably, obviously I can't either (just sending out 600+ disks would strain my resources a great deal - though figuring out how to copy a 12,000 page document in NYC wouldn't strain me.)

But it seems to me that

1. Iraq signed a deal

and

2. The Security Council, after 8 weeks of wrangling - voted 15:1 for forceful inspections.

If the inspections work - and war is avoided - a lot of progress has been made.

Though one may share your indignation.

Not everybody would have to.

almarst2002 - 08:21pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6514 of 6517)

RE: N.K

While calling on N.K to disarm, Isn't it true the US hold the tactical nuclear arsenal assigned to its 37.000 troops over their.

Which de-facto hold the S.K hostage and in danger for possible and quite justifiable nuclear buildup as a deterrence.

In addition, the US forces in S.K are in not supervised or controlled by S.K. and can start a war any time they chose. Moreover, they are not under any S.K jurisdiction for any crimes they may commit. Just recently, two of US marines where aquited by US military of any wron doing after crushing to death two S.K youbg girls.

I wonder what mazza would do if he happend to be a parent of those kids.

rshow55 - 08:24pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6515 of 6517) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

manjumicha 12/11/02 7:51pm

I thought American Policies and Presence Under Fire in South Korea By HOWARD W. FRENCH with DON KIRK http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/08/international/asia/08KORE.html - - - was a pretty perceptive article. The idea that if the US would just leave Korea, the Koreans could solve their own problems has some appeal.

N. Korea Defends Right to Build Weapons By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 6:23 a.m. ET http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-NKorea-Missile-Concerns.html ends:

"For years, cash-strapped North Korea has used missile exports as a means of survival."

Maybe we should think about what it might take to let them have other means of survival?

. . . . . . .

Perhaps is we offered the N. Koreans a huge bribe -- say, our real cost of maintaining our garrison in Korea for two years - and the same money they're making on weapons - for five years - they'd agree to inspections and disarmament - at the levels that anybody would reasonably ask for - on a basis that people could be sure of .

That would be cheap. A good deal for us and for them.

Solve the Iraq problem (which looks on track) - - and make peace with Iran - - which looks like it is sorting out some problems - - and the US might find it had a trillion dollars available for constructive uses.

We could find some constructive uses.

almarst2002 - 08:27pm Dec 11, 2002 EST (# 6516 of 6517)

"The official reason for the declaration's limited distribution was that it contained sensitive information that could help rogue states or terrorists to build devastating weapons, particular nuclear arms.

However, a UN official said that there could be trepidation among the big powers over revealing the names of Baghdad's former suppliers. - http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,857718,00.html

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