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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:49pm Nov 22, 2002 EST (# 6157 of 6164) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Every one of those principles is subject to qualification in practice - and everybody knows it.

People do the best they can.

Often things work out quite well.

almarst2002 - 01:49pm Nov 22, 2002 EST (# 6158 of 6164)

rshow55 11/22/02 1:33pm

Robert,

Do you believe the following:

- The Right of the Citizens to bear Arms

- The Ballance of Powers and Checks and Ballances

- The universal application of Law

- The protected rights of Minority

- The "No Taxation Without Representation"

almarst2002 - 01:54pm Nov 22, 2002 EST (# 6159 of 6164)

rshow55 11/22/02 1:45pm

"perfection isn't possible."

Do you think we are moving to close or increase the gap?

almarst2002 - 01:55pm Nov 22, 2002 EST (# 6160 of 6164)

"To find those limits - you have to start accounting costs."

Expand please.

rshow55 - 01:57pm Nov 22, 2002 EST (# 6161 of 6164) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Not without qualification.

And for getting a sense of "what matters" -- "what makes sense" - a sense of what the truth is is important.

- The Right of the Citizens to bear Arms ------ is very substantially abridged almost everywhere - for good reasons - though different societies find different balances.

- The Ballance of Powers and Checks and Ballances - - is a good general principle - mostly a reflection of realities - and one where people make adjustments on the basis of reason and power in interaction together.

- The universal application of Law -- law has limits of applicability and enforceablitiy - and everybody knows it - - I'm for the law (in general) but like everybody else (including lawyers) I've got reservations in specific cases.

- The protected rights of Minority - - important idea - but subject to limitations for the rights of the majority - which are also real.

- The "No Taxation Without Representation" - - all taxpayers are forced to pay under circumstances where their representation is limited and incomplete - and taxpayers have known that for 5000 years.

There have to be exceptions - and balances - and those balances have to make sense in context.

For them to make sense in context - it is often important to be clear about what facts are.

That means there have to be ways of getting things checked.

almarst2002 - 02:00pm Nov 22, 2002 EST (# 6162 of 6164)

"Every one of those principles is subject to qualification in practice - and everybody knows it."

I like it;)

Is there anything in a world not a subject to "qualification in practice" other then PRACTICE?

Meaning, You can PRACTICE ANYTHING as long as it is COST-EFFECTIVE TO YOU?

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