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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 09:08pm Nov 17, 2002 EST (# 5899 of 5903) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

5551 rshow55 11/8/02 11:12am includes this:

U.N. Panel Vote Is Unanimous http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-UN-Iraq.html Filed at 10:42 a.m. ET

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- The Security Council unanimously approved a new Iraq resolution Friday, forcing Saddam Hussein to disarm or face ``serious consequences'' that would almost certainly mean war.

"The vote came after eight weeks of tumultuous negotiations and was seen as a victory for the United States, which drafted the resolution together with Britain.

If the result is war, it will be a great human failure and tragedy - but the consequences for the world will still be far better than they would have been without the negotiation. If the result is peaceful, practical disarmament - it will be a great and historical step toward a better world.

I'm glad the vote went as it did, and that the negotiation went as it did.

One could look at
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and some other postings, and think that the MD forum may have been influential and useful in the discourse about Iraq at the United Nations.

I hope so - and think that, at the least, lchic and I have succeeded in setting out some arguments congruent with some useful discussions that have gone on at the UN.

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International law and international patterns of conduct are being redefined, clarified, and renegotiated.
5555 rshow55 11/8/02 5:56pm . . . 5556 rshow55 11/8/02 5:57pm
and though there's still a lot to be desired - a lot of problems - I think it is a hopeful as well as a troubled time.

rshow55 - 09:13pm Nov 17, 2002 EST (# 5900 of 5903) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

When National Security Adviser Rice wrote this, I believe she wrote something profound and hopeful. I'm doing the best I can to help make it true.

" Today, the international community has the best chance since the rise of the nation-state in the seventeenth century to build a world where great powers compete in peace instead of continually prepare for war. . . . . . The United States will build on these common interests to promote global security. " "The National Security Strategy of the United States," http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/20/politics/20STEXT_FULL.html . page 2.

For that to be true - we need to make decisions based on' correct information.

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/354

almarst2002 - 09:30pm Nov 17, 2002 EST (# 5901 of 5903)

rshow55 11/17/02 9:13pm

"great powers compete in peace instead of continually prepare for war" (Rice)

Sounds great. Except is seems the US is going in exactly the opposite direction. It increases its relative military capabilities and creates the power imbalance beiong anything we have ever seen. It also tries to enlist NATO for a military activities far beiong its original charter. It walkes away from many International treaties and agreements it signed or promoted before. It declares itself as the "ONLY" one in posession of knowlege of what is "Right" and "Wrong". And in having the right to impose its judgement by force.

So, in Washington's view, the future of the World is bright as long as all other nations obey and follow. The sweet dream of any dictatorship.

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