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- 04:00pm Nov 17, 2002 EST (#
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International law and international patterns of conduct are
being redefined, clarified, and renegotiated.
Key questions, again and again, are
Why not fight?
Why exactly , and in detail?
If these things are clarified and explained -
there will be somewhat fewer fights - somewhat more limited
fights - and the fights that occur are much more likely to
settle things reasonably and stably, from most if not all
points of view.
Most of the time - when one looks at what is really
necessary for the survival and reasonable function of the
parties involved - there are ways - often easy ways - to avoid
conflict, once these things are clarified.
Even so, I believe, and most people, certainly most
Americans believe, that fights are sometimes necessary. I
personally believe that if Saddam refuses to disarm, by a
material breach that the United States can reasonably explain
- then his regime, and those who support it in Iraq - should
be taken down militarily. And at that point - the military
standard should be unconditional surrender or death of
Saddam's combattant supporters. That's a view others could
But to be convincing to me, they'd have to have reasons
that I could understand, and weigh myself. Quite often, very
many people, from different points of view, come to similar
conclusions after complete discussions of that sort. For
example, the vote of the Security Council for inspection of
Iraq was 15-0.
Who Needs the U.N. Security Coucil? By JAMES TRAUB
For clear definition - we all do.
Radical Islam can define itself so that, given
compromises that the rest of the world can reasonably make,
there must be a fight - at least a fight at the level
of ideas. If they do take a position where there must be a
fight- it will help to be clear just exactly they are
insisting on. If they can't state their case clearly - - and
they haven't so far - - perhaps the reason is that they are
simply corrupt, angry, and confused.
- 05:27pm Nov 17, 2002 EST (#
5867 of 5881)
It seems to me your incursion into Islam in search of the
Evil is out of place. Entirely and extreamly.
You must have forgotten that by far the most dreadful and
terrible crimes the Human race ever vitnessed where commited
by Christians. Less then 70 years ago. Not to mention terrible
American wars in Indo-China.
In my view, the easiness at wich the West drops its bombs,
Napalm, Agent Orange and DU munitions, the persistance it
continues to advance its military, including the WMD, the
history of religious and racial intolerance and sence of
superiority are deeply rooted in Christianity.
Remember, the East already tolerated multicultural
multy-ethnic societies for milleniums when European tribes
still where fighting each other with stones.
How about this:
It so happend that Muslim world happend to occupy the most
valuable resources-wise land for the West - OIL. The West uses
this treasure without any regard for the needs of the great
masses of Muslim/Arab World having just one and only goal in
mind - protection of the free and plentfuk oil supply. For
this reason the maps of the reagions where drufted scillfuly
by the British Empire and foreign minority rullers where
installed and supported. Whith one and only mandate - to feed
the West, mainly Britain and after WWII - the US with OIL.
So, the modern political Piramid top-to-bottom looks like
- Magor US/British OIL Companies
- US/British Governments armed with a big stick of Military
Forces and OIL distribution channels
- All Western Corporations and Citizens
- ME OIL Criminal Rullers who struggle to hold to power by
inciting the population against foreign enemies, real or
invented. Unable, uninterested and unvilling to invest in
their own countries, other the in an OIL industries.
- Poor oppressed Islamic nations suffering from
underdevelopment, unemployement, brutal foreign regimes and
stripped from their most valuable commodities.
My suggestion - lets look for the culprit somwhere else,
not in religion.
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