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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lunarchick - 12:36pm Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5830 of 5911)

If Saddam moves out of Iraq

If Iraq is run by the Saddam clan

What then .... how does it
transform to enable 'The People'

To make a 'social contract'

To give the people a framework - boundaries - within which to function

rshow55 - 12:43pm Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5831 of 5911) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Maybe it can happen - it will have to happen step by step.

lunarchick - 01:04pm Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5832 of 5911)

BUY into a piece of the Middle East


lunarchick - 01:11pm Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5833 of 5911)

GU Talk || Saddam

Saddam's Followers Will Fight to the DEATH, Right Until They Have to Hightail It to Libya with $3.5B

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-481908,00.html

almost funny in an awful, pathetic sort of way

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BigBoots - 03:15am Nov 16, 2002 GMT (#1 of 6)
Gotta love that dry British humor:

"Hala is Saddam’s favourite. One young man who had taken a fancy to her, the only one of his five children to remain unmarried, was buried up to his neck and stoned to death. She has few suitors."

http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?50@@.3ba77da8/0

mazza9 - 01:28pm Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5834 of 5911)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic Commentaries

Lunarchick. Do you see the irony. You've mentioned that you have given aid to feed the starving children of Iraq. I commend you for your charity and good works. Meanwhile, the Saddam Social Security fund for friends and family is going to Libya!

This is similar to the reported Billions in Swiss Bank Accounts held by Arafat while the Palestinian way of life is maintained in a depressed state. This economic depression is used to fester the hate which is directed against Israel. Might this hate be better directed atainst Arafat

rshow55 - 01:37pm Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5835 of 5911) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Iraqi army is tougher than US believes The US claims a war against Saddam would be quick. Wrong, says analyst Toby Dodge, the conflict could be long and bloody http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,841232,00.html

There's plenty of reason to proceed with care - step by step - so the people who, at some levels at least, want to avoid a fight can do so.

The deal described in http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-481908,00.html says that Saddam and Udey are not included. Although there are reasons to want to try them as war criminals - I think the cost of that is likely to be grossly excessive - and would advocate letting them go - to permit a peaceful transition to occur.

Mankind's Inhumanity to Man # 357-365 http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7b085/401 starts with this:

For us to lessen inhumanity in the future - - we have to deal with things that have happened - within the limitations that we can actually make work - as things are.

I believe these postings from February 27th, 2001 - a few days before almarst was invited on the board - are worth posting again. I appreciate the chance to do so.

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