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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 10:06am Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5812 of 5828) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Iraqis, Arabs, people all over the world need to consider the Golden Rule.

In this particular case -- Saddam has done what he's done - said what he's said - - threatened the things he's threatened - and by indirection - shows many signs of continuing to do so.

Why not kill him, and his followers, under the circumstances now - after so much effort at accomodation - after he's made it abundantly clear that he will not change -- that the threats are real?

What would Iraqis do to us?

Why should we not judge what they'd do to us by what they've tried to do, and what they've threatened?

. . .

Real peacemaking would be a good alternative - and everything for that is in place - negotiated and ready in ample detail.

If real peacemaking is denied - why not fight?

lunarchick - 11:43am Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5813 of 5828)

August2002 - ANALYSIS: On Iraq, Bush Relies on Vision, Not Expertise

September2002 - My vision for peace - Clinton

lunarchick - 11:49am Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5814 of 5828)


rshow55 - 11:52am Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5815 of 5828) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

From -

"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In deciding whether to invade Iraq, President Bush is guided by a view of the world as a battleground of good versus evil.

Things are more complicated than that - and many people, in many countries, with real power - know that. Some very important issues in international law are in the process of being renegotiated - - and there is a good chance, from where we are - that the negotiation can result in a big improvement from where we are. If some leaders asked to get some things checked - - so that ugly, disproportionate responses could be avoided - it would be almost certain. There would be plenty of time, in that event, to avoid war in Iraq - and make war much less likely elsewhere in the world.

lunarchick - 11:55am Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5816 of 5828)

NYT - Welcome, rashid16 -

rather than Welcome, Lunarchick ....

What's happening?

lunarchick - 11:59am Nov 16, 2002 EST (# 5817 of 5828)

Iraq Without Saddam

As I think about President Bush's plans to take out Saddam Hussein and rebuild Iraq into a democracy, one question gnaws at me: Is Iraq the way it is today because Saddam Hussein is the way he is? Or is Saddam Hussein the way he is because Iraq is the way it is?

I mean, is Iraq a totalitarian dictatorship under a cruel, iron-fisted man because the country is actually an Arab Yugoslavia a highly tribalized, artificial state, drawn up by the British, consisting of Shiites in the south, Kurds in the north and Sunnis in the center whose historical ethnic rivalries can be managed only by a Saddam-like figure?

Or, has Iraq, by now, congealed into a real nation? And once the cruel fist of Saddam is replaced by a more enlightened leadership, Iraq's talented, educated people will slowly produce a federal democracy. ....

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