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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a
nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a
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- 06:06pm Nov 14, 2002 EST (#
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Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click
"rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for
on this thread.
11/14/02 5:13pm - - makes a point that is essential -
lying is far too common to be much of an offense - certainly
not a cause for war.
- - My last posting includes this:
"If Saddam denies that he's told some lies -
that people all around him have done plenty of lying - and
that some key things in his regime have involved deceptions
and misjudgements - - - then he's classified hope out of
He's classified hope out of existence because he's
classified flexibility and reasonable right answers out
For instance - my reasonably educated guess is that Saddam
may well have some WMD, and have lied about it. That, in
itself, is no reason for war. Or all that much indignation.
Americans have done plenty of lying. That ought to be
an easy thing to prove.
Everybody lies some. If we admitted that - a lot of things
would be much less rigid - and there would be more hope of
sorting things out.
If Saddam admitted what everybody really knows -- that he's
lied some - he and the rest of the world would be in a much
better position to ask for some truth from other
leaders - including GW Bush. Then there would be a lot more
to hope for.
The US wants Iraq disarmed because they think the regime is
unstable (for some reasonable reasons, from an American point
of view) - and feel justified in pushing the matter because
Iraq agreed to do so at the end of Gulf War, and has agreed to
Everything considered, including Iraq's own statements - it
seems to me that the disarmament is justified.
It has certainly been negotiated at length - and the vote
in the Security Council ought to have a great deal of weight.
It does with me.
We'd all be much safer if we understood, and admitted more
clearly, the extent of deception in the world. - the extent to
which people, including leaders - not only make mistakes - but
If we understood that - without claiming to be scandalized
- we could justify checking things - and getting a lot
of things sorted out.
If the penalties for lying are too high - we can never sort
out a lot of things we need to sort out.
The incidence of deception in the world is maybe 10-20
times what people are willing to admit - and if
we acknowledged that - a whole world of hopeful possibilities
would open up.
- 08:34pm Nov 14, 2002 EST (#
5770 of 5777)
Interesting links (above) giving background and
Saddam has to say ..
'this week I walked through a revolving door the past is
behind me not to be revisited.... a pluralistic-future, to be
filled with wonderful opportunities lies ahead ... '
Perhaps the people of Iraq need a social
contract ... 9/10 are subject to the whim of the State
.... all people require laws, rights and a purpose in life.
will get back to this later ... |>
- 08:43pm Nov 14, 2002 EST (#
5771 of 5777)
"the disarmament is justified"
I would be if the political climate of today's world was
But it seems the Rule of Force is what still counts the
most, not the Rule of Law. And I lay a great part of
responsibility for this on US.
As I tried to point before, any country, particularely the
small one, may see the WMD as the only option to prevent being
attacked by a huge superpower. This seems to be a pretty
strightforward logic. The only other option could be a turn to
use the tread of terror, particularely bio-terror.
If small child faced the Mike Tycon, could anyone blame him
of fighting not according to the rules of ring?
My point is - The US, nor other permanent SC members are in
a moraly justified position to demand disarmament. And the
least of all - the US.
- 10:37pm Nov 14, 2002 EST (#
5772 of 5777)
"Quae cum ita sunt" Caesar's Gallic
Here is a doomsday scenario from a "purported" Al Quida
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