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 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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lunarchick - 04:21pm Nov 13, 2002 EST (# 5722 of 5728)

Iraq was the progressive pace setter in it's geographical zone - people must therefore have looked to it for ideas and leadership - they would expect to again.

Look at the total population around Bagdhad moving out in concentric zones ... these are market potentials.

Look to the needs of this area.

Move towards processes than deliver provision for this zone.

Work in with all neighbours regardless of their ideology.

lunarchick - 04:29pm Nov 13, 2002 EST (# 5723 of 5728)

The Arab world has the UN benchmark report.

Look to truth within that report.

See the need move people through Maslow's pyramid, from basic provision to self-actualisation.

Don't fall into the traps of rhetoric that is then chanced on by divents ... to the 'cost' of the entire world.

Look at recent international incidents - their outcomes have 'cost' the world.

Indonesia is 12 billion dollars down already in foreign exchange (that could have been used to import process infrastructure).

The 9/11 incident sent up the cost of logistial diffusion of people, services and goods.

These incidents reduce rather than rise world living standards.

Good leadership would see and know this and caution people into acting for 'the general GOOD' of the world, regional and national population.

Were the oil to flow again from repaired wells and pipelines then Iraq could soon become a place and people to be respected and admired - providing farseeing policies were implemented by the leadership.

It has the edge on Iran. The Iranian people want to move forward but are shackled by the greed and intrigue of ruling clerics who may have their own rather than the people's interest at heart.

lunarchick - 04:30pm Nov 13, 2002 EST (# 5724 of 5728)

Showalter - could you put in the links for

Maslow Heirachy

Berle's Power

and the

Golden Rule


rshow55 - 05:08pm Nov 13, 2002 EST (# 5725 of 5728) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

There are basic human needs. Basic patterns that all human organizations that work have to conform to at least adequately. The rules and needs have to be satisfied together - and in ways that fit together . Otherwise, systems formed are both unsatisfactory and unstable.

All human beings have basic needs - and Maslow's list seems to me to be a very good one in essential ways.

The first four levels are the most basic - and these needs apply to individuals and groups:

1) Physiological needs - the basic life sustaining functions have to be satisfied

2) Safety - - people need to be safe most of the time

3) Belonginess and Love

4) Esteem

These four primal needs are essential, but for these basics to be satisified in situations of real human complexity - the following needs are also important, because we must act and feel as human beings:

5) The need to understand

6) The need for beauty, broadly defined

7) The need to feel fulfilled or justified as a whole person

8) The need to help others be human in the senses that matter

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs by William G. Huitt

I think Huitt's image is well worth remembering.

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