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    Missile Defense

Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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rshow55 - 01:38pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (# 5482 of 5484) Delete Message
Can we do a better job of finding truth? YES. Click "rshow55" for some things Lchic and I have done and worked for on this thread.

Or with negotiation skills, and legal arrangements, so that war was much less likely - and better controlled.

5475 lunarchick 11/5/02 12:31pm has important references, that augment a point Krugman makes only a little indirectly in The Pitt Principle http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/01/opinion/01KRUG.html

I'd like to emphasize especially the first lines of

5303 rshow55 10/27/02 10:36am 5303 rshow55 10/27/02 10:36am 5303 rshow55 10/27/02 10:36am 5303 rshow55 10/27/02 10:36am

There are things that need to be checked - that ought to be, and can be, if some leaders choose.

Maybe we're getting closer to having it happen.

I believe that I was shown absolutely everything that the Nazis knew that I could use - something I've said before. Some of the references in 5475 lunarchick 11/5/02 12:31pm say something about how.

Casey felt that, in war, you used every technique that worked - - and he knowingly did monstrous things. Had me learn, and study, and consider "improving" some monstrous techniques. But I don't think Casey could have lived with himself if he hadn't thought that he was working toward an ending where the world would be much better place - for all the crimes and horrors (including some of his.)

The fact that the US effective rulers now use cold-war fighting technique for self enrichment - perpetuating horror and danger for the whole world - would have outraged him.

Outrages me, too.

Could I be misinterpreting? I suppose - but in terms of what I know, and have seen on this board, it is the only thing that fits.

Links to CIA and my security problems, NYT MD thread: 3774-3779 b rshow55 8/17/02 4:58pm

Staffs might find the last month's postings in Psychwarfare, Casablanca . . . and terror worth reading http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/354

We need to clean up some messes - and it seems to me that, ugly as some things are, some progress is being made.

The idea that the Bush administration can proceed from moral superiority , however, ought to be subject to examination.

For more than a year, I've been saying this:

With the ingenuity the Bush administration is now devoting to making its case for missile defense (and you have to credit them with ingenuity and initiative on this) they could probably figure out how to achieve real peace, solve the global warming problem, and assure the whole world an adequate and safe energy supply, forever.

They'd get a lot more credit for that than they're getting for what they're now doing.

. .

It seems to me that the biggest barrier in the way to that is lies that they will not face - or permit to be looked at. It would take less courage than Saddam, for all his faults, showed when he emptied his prisons, to set that right.

lunarchick - 01:58pm Nov 5, 2002 EST (# 5483 of 5484)

... they could probably figure out how to achieve real peace, solve the global warming problem, and assure the whole world an adequate and safe energy supply, forever.

... depends on if they could get 'satifaction' from working for good ... rather than maintaining the world on the 'eve of destruction'.

http://www.musiclinks.nl/songteksten/Barry_McGuire/7954.html
The Barry McGuire song "Eve of Destruction" is pulled from retail stores and radio stations across the country after some groups complain that it is nihilistic and could promote suicidal feelings amongst teens. 1965 http://ericnuzum.com/banned/sixties.html

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